I think what makes the Ramones the coolest band ever is just that...they wished they were a top 40 boy band (in the bay city rollers sense). They are the definiton of punk because they weren't trying to be "punk"...they were just naturally fucked up guys who thought were were being normal. They wanted to be the biggest band ever on their OWN terms. That's way cooler than trying NOT to be popular in fear of losing street cred.

But back on topic....I think Turbonegro sucks.

There's room , here , for people who do and don't like The Swamp Rats. Since so damn few people even seem to know who they were , even in "Garage " circles , if some people don't like them , I'm OK with that.  i'VE ALWAYS LIKED THEM. By "Always" , I mean , since I found the average - sounding bootleg on Eva , about 20 years ago , and finally graduated to the Get Hip LP with extra tracks.

Unpopular Opinions of my own : Love DMZ , but I always found The Lyres to be overrated. I saw them in '88 , I think it was , and , it just was'nt happening. "Don't Give It Up , Now" , "Help You , Ann" , real good songs , mind you , but , I've heard album after album , and compared to the foot - in - ass JOHANSEN MEETS IGGY vocal delivery of DMZ , Connolly frequently sounds disinterested to me. GOOD MUSICIANS HAVE PASSED THRU THE BAND ( Inc. Ex - DMZ members .) , but , I still don't know why FUZZ is a dirty word. Don't overdo it , but , smoke 'em if you got 'em.

I always thought that the Ramones was an average forgettable pop punk band who wished they were a boy band

Except "Pshycho" and "Louie Louie"!  No?  I didn't need to buy their LP.

 

Alex said:

 

I'll start... I don't like the Swamp Rats.  I think they're overrated.

I love garage and punk music, but every now and then I find that my taste doesn't jive with popular opinion -- meaning there's bands or records that everyone in the garagepunk community loves, but I just don't.  Let's share our unpopular opinions.

I'll start... I don't like the Swamp Rats.  I think they're overrated.

swt was referring to the original Josie and The Pussycats , whose extremely rare LP came out in 70 or 71.......Peronally , I love that stuff. It's a lot more Soul - oriented than The Archies . The Banana Splits were , too.....But , I think Pickett INTERPRETED "Sugar , Sugar" , made it his own. I love The ARCHIES , TOO , BUT, EVEN THO' THE Pussycats album (Feat. a young Cheryl Ladd) is , at times , spotty, there's some good rockin' toons - Esp. Watch Out (For The Roadrunner.)" AND "i'M gONNA dO sOME vOODOO ON yOU"........But , it's not for every Bubblegum fan ,agreed.

(Some of) my least fave bands , hmmmmmmm......

STICKMEN WITH RAYGUNS.   I know , if you did'nt live in Dallas , you probably love 'em. They had a home field advantage , because I saw them open so many gigs....The last time I saw them , tho' , they were all right.

MAKERS .

SMASHING PUMPKINS ( I ACCIDENTALLY SAW THEM FOR $3 IN 1988. I STILL WANT MY $3 BACK.).

MINISTRY.

BLACK LIPS.

GRATEFUL DEAD (BARRING MAYBE SOME 66 - 7 STUFF. I STILL WOULD'NT BUY IT.).

BLACK FLAG (HENRY - ERA , SPECIFICALLY. I LIKE SOME EARLIER STUFF.).

MOST BLACK METAL. CAN'T READ THE LOGOS.

LED ZEPPELIN. (STRING ME UP AND DRESS ME LIKE A DEER , BUT , I WENT THRU ALL THAT , LIKED A SONG HERE AND A SONG THERE , BUT NEVER BOUGHT THE PARTY LINE. NOW , I REALLY DON'T GET IT. GIVE ME PAGE WITH THE YARDBIRDS , '68 , INSTEAD.).

THE CARS

AC/DC  .    (AGAIN , I'VE  ALREADY HAD MY BALLS BUSTED , IN PRINT , JUST BECAUSE I'M A WHITE MALE , BORN IN THE 60'S , WHO NEVER WORSHIPPED  AC/DC.  WHEN THEY BROKE IN LATE 79 - 80 , IN THE U.S. , THEY WERE THE BAND JOCKS AND STONERS AGREED ON , AND I WANTED NO PART OF EITHER SCENE , SINCE I GOT INTO PUNK  ( I WAS FRIENDLY WITH THE STONERS , FOR THE MOST PART , THO'.) . A COUPLE OF SONGS I DON'T MIND , BUT , GIVE ME ROSE TATTOO , ANY DAY.

KISS .    ( YES , THEY WERE ALMOST PARALELL TO THE BEATLES IN MY UNIVERSE AT ONE TIME. I GOT OVER IT. I KNOW IT'S NO LONGER UNCOOL

TO LIKE KISS IF YOU'RE 14 OR OVER , BUT , LISTEN TO "KISS ALIVE II" , THEN SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH CRITICS WHO SAID THE DOLLS WERE'NT MUSICALLY PROFICIENT !).

HI FI AND THE ROADBURNERS - THE LATE ERIK KISH (AKA HI FI .) AND I BECAME FRIENDLY IN LATER YEARS , WHEN HE MOVED DOWN THE STREET. HE KNEW I DID'NT LIKE THE BAND , AND HE WAS COOL WITH IT.

JIM JONES REVUE - DON'T GET ME WRONG , I THINK THEY'RE A KILLER ROCK'N'ROLL GROUP , BUT, EVERYTHING'S IN THE RED. AND THEN SOME . IT'S PAINFUL. IF I WERE 21 , I GUESS I COULD LISTEN TO IT.

SMITHS/MORRISSEY SOLO.

THE CURE

RAP/HIP HOP IN GENERAL. DID'NT SEEM SO BAD AROUND '82 - '84 , SOME OF IT , BECAUSE IT WAS NEW. IT AIN'T NEW ANYMORE.

NIRVANA - IT'S NOT THAT I THINK THEY'RE THE WORST , JUST THAT I FIND THEM ANNOYING , ALONG WITH THE ENDLESS BANDS COPPING THEIR VOCAL AND GUITAR SOUND , THAT FORMED IN THEIR WAKE.

DeadBeat Combo , Thank you. I don't really know what happened. I heard some things from people associated with The Standells , about why Dickie had left The Standells almost as quickly as he'd rejoined them. Nothing scandalous , of course.  But , it does'nt make any difference , now. He must have been diagnosed shortly after rejoining the band , which was , what? 6 or 8 months ago , and that must have necessitated his decision. 

I was lucky , I saw THEE Standells , TONY , DICK AND LARRY , IN '99 ,  and they were on FIRE. I met Dick , briefly , he was really cool.

Real shame, just when he was getting back with the band. Dick, & The Standells were/are great. They were, & will continue to be, a great inspiration.

THANK YOU. Sometimes , I feel like people don't know how consequential this is.......I had , very early on , the understanding that , as DonWaller put it ,"The Standells Were THEE Punk Band of The Sixties" , and , arguably , the American Rolling Stones , known as much for their defiant stance , one of individuality moreso than affected arrogance.....Something that made them , somehow , even more Stones-like . "We piss anywhere , man.".

Sad news. Sorry to hear about this.

Kind, thoughtful previous posts. 

Playlist 11/30/13

I will be on the air and the web on Saturday November 30^th from 1:00-2:45PM EST. The usual garagepunk will be cut a little short today for the RIT hockey game broadcast. You can listen at 89.7 WITR-FM in Rochester, NY or streaming live at http://witr.rit.edu

Radio What Wave Playlist Nov 28 2013

1. The Reply....Hey?....not sure of the song name, but it was recorded at Brennan's 4/21/12.

2. The Sadies...A Burning Snowman...from the Favourite Colours CD from 2004. An apt title as we've been welcomed to winter with a shitload of snow. The Sadies are coming to Call The Office, Sat Dec 7th....2 sets of The Sadies with no opening bands.

3. The Sadies...Tiger Tiger...from the Stories Often Told CD from 2002.

4. Dragsville...Always Win...local combo from a soon to be released CD.

5. The Dahlias...Call Me Dear....demo from a Montreal combo who are coming to EVAC this saturday night.

6. The Dahlias...Love And Devotion....as above. The Dahlias are pals with the next combo, who also come from Montreal.

7. Light Bulb Alley....Liquor Store...this a a demo from the upcoming Fear No Evil CD, to be released on Ricochet Sound out of Montreal.

Light Bulb Alley at Brennan's Beer Bistro....April 21/2012

8. Light Bulb Alley...Wanna Be Loved....as above.

9. Bloody Diamonds....Baby Don't Be Nice...from the They've Got Secrets LP. Sara and Jake did a phone in  interview at this point as they were loading in at the APK for a show the same night this radio show aired. Bloody Diamonds are from Halifax Nova Scotia and are almost always on tour.

Bloody Diamonds playing live to air.

10. Bloody Diamonds...Bright Lights Darling...from a live to air on Radio WW from 9/27/2012. The full recording is available on the Radio WW Soundcloud page.

https://soundcloud.com/whatwave/sets/bloody-diamonds-live-on-radio

11. Bloody Diamonds...Monopoly...as above

12. 63 Monroe...At The Boot...from Slippery's Club Hits, the cassette that comes with WW #24. 63 Monroe is playing a Toys For Tots show on saturday at The Dawghouse here in London.

63 Monroe at The Cedar Lounge...circa 1981

13. The Sinners....No Brains Required...from their only 7". One of the early punk/new wave combos from London. And on Saturday Dec 7th, is the book release party for Graphic Underground London: 1977-1990 at the APK. This is an afternoon free show, running from 2 to 7PM...copies of the brand new book will be available (it's at the printers as we speak) and it's a museum style book....over 200 pages, colour and monochrome pics throughout of the posters, zines, ephemera from London's musical past. It's a must for anyone into that era of London's musical past!  There'll also be a couple of video screens set up showing some of the many photos of London combos from 1977 -1990 as the scene was fairly well documented photographically. And there'll be a couple of DJ's, Lucky Pete Lamber and yours truly whatwave dave spinning only 7" records for your aural delights (or maybe not)...It's going to be a blast, so come on down for a little bit on your busy saturday afternoon. We'll also have copies of WW 24, some WW Tees, and a couple of other zines we distribute.Here's a link to the event:

https://www.facebook.com/events/586923274696273/

14. Crash 80's....Thrills....from their only 7". Another of London's early new wave/punk records.

15. Marvelous Beauhunks....Fantasy Merry Go Round...from the Do Not Resuscitate CD. The Hunks will be playing at Toronto's International Pop Explosion this saturday.

16. The 905s...Running Full Speed....from a Radio WW Session first aired 5/16/13. The 905s will also be playing the IPO in Toronto on saturday.

17. The Seatbelts....American Bandstand...from the Joy Ride CD...Detroit combo from the late 70's/early 80's who have reformed and recorded.

18. Teenanger.... Minimum Wage...from their split LP with Charlie and The Moonhearts. Teenanger are playing the Black Shire Pub on saturday night.

Teenanger at Moon Over Marin, June 27 2010

19. Invasions....Jewel...from a demo CD. Toronto combo

20. Gerry Alvarez Odyssey...Urban Shaman....from the Candy Prankster CD from 2006. Gerry was in The Gruesomes in the 80's.

Gerry Alvarez at Black Shire Pub, Oct 2 2010

21. Barrence Whitfield and The Savages...Black Jack....from the Dig Thy Savage Soul LP.

22. Raised By Wolves....Outta Site....from the Hot Blood CD from 2006....had to fade this out as we ran outta time.

Radio What Wave Playlist, November 21/2013

1.catl....Cocaine...from the Soon This Will All Be Gone CD. catl were recording in Ardent Studios this past week, home to ZZ Top, Big Star and so many others.

2. Dragsville...Royal Drag...from their forthcoming release...our local version of The Flying Burrito Brothers.

3. Fireball Grant...Evolution Blues...from his latest demo. We had Fireball live over the airwaves on Oct 31st.

Fireball Grant on Radio WW Oct 31 2013

4. Simply Saucer...The Story Of Simply Saucer...from a demo that Edgar Breau gave us last time we had him onair. Edgar suffered a heart attack about a week ago and is now on the mend

5. Stompin' Tom Connors...The Ketchup Song...from the Bud The Spud LP. This one goes out to the employees at the Heinz plant in Leamington Ontario that is closing down. Over 700 full time, 300 part timers and thousands more depend on this plant for income. Open for well over 100 years and one of the largest tomato processing plants in North America closed by big business decisions.

6. Pre-Historic Cavestrokers...Second Hand...mid 80's demo from this Windsor Ontario combo as we do a Windsor area band tribute to it's smaller neighbour, Leamington Ontario.

7. Weirdonia...Nymphochondriac...from the Freaks CD. We had this 2 piece combo for a live to air about 2 years ago and got stopped in the second song due to a university exam happening directly below our studios!

8.Lost Patrol...In Your Eyes...from their LP on Stop It Baby Records from France. Late 80's Windsor combo who played many many times here in London.This is the end of our Windsor set.

9. The Smugglers...Vancouver BC...from the In The Hall Of Fame CD. The Smugglers were a late 80's to end of 90's garagepop combo from Vancouver BC. Singer Grant Lawrence is now a published novelist and CBC personality. He'll be in town this tuesday at Landon Library to read from his latest book.

10. The Smugglers...Billy Billy... from the Mutiny In  Stereo CD. 

11. Seatbelts...Joy Ride...from the CD of the same name.

12. Lisa Doll....Bubblegum Boy....from a recent 7" EP.

13. Destroy All Monsters...November 22 1963....from the Singles and Rarities CD on Revenge that Ron Ashton gave me many years ago. This is the start of our tribute to the Kennedy assasination that happened 50 years ago.

Ron Ashton in London Ontario....10/12/1990

14. Dead Kennedys...California Uber Alles....from a 7" which has way better sound quality than the LP below.

15. Dead Kennedys...Police Truck....from the Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables LP. One of my all time fave surf LP's!!

16. Magazine...Motorcade...from the 1978 Real Live LP. Singer/soingwriter Howard Devoto claims this song is not about the Kennedy assasination....

17. Satan's Sadists....November 22 1963....from the Infinity CD and closes out our Kennedy set.

18.Dustbin Flowers...Bayside Jenny....local release.

19. Mere Humans....Temple...demo...Ottawa combo who have a couple of Evil Farm Children in their ranks.

20. Bloody Diamonds...Baby Don't Be Nice....from the They've Got Secrets LP. From Halifax, we've had them playing live to air on Radio WW about a year ago and they are back in town at APK on Thursday Dec 27th. We'll be doing a phone interview on next week's show as they are sound checking when we'reonair.

Bloody Diamonds on Radio WW Sept 27 2012

21. Dead City Soul Review....Burnin'...demo...from Hamilton and used to be called The Hook Up.

22. Mickey Finn....Garden Of My Mind....from English Freakbeat Volume 2 and a request to Iggy Pop's best friend who happens to live in London Ontario.

23. Mickey Finn...Night Comes Down...from Electric Sugar Cube Flashbacks.

24. Mickey Finn...Reelin' and Rockin'...from English Freakbeat Volume 4.

Thanx for all the phone-ins, emails, facebook messages and Heys!!! Back again next week with Bloody Diamonds as they are in town that eve and lots of other cool stuff!!

Here's a link to the podcast for this show:

http://chrwradio.ca/content/radio-what-wave

JOHN: I have never heard of Barrence Whitfield. I'm reading about him now though. I'll check him out later today!

I think that Pack LP is in the top 5 best Punk albums of the 70's. Up there with the Ramones, Saints and Teenage Heads first album

Several Ramones albums and the Vibrators' Pure Mania. 

There's a nice Zeros video on YouTube (left hand Bass player )!

I LIKE PACK'S LP.....IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE , NOR ARE THE KIDS , BUT , I LIKE THEM , TOO. "POSSIBILITIES" IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES , TOO.

LECKIE FOR MAYOR !!!  Nervous Eaters - Eaterville. Hell , yeah .   Real Kids - S/T and Grown Up Wrong !!!! Bosstown , you're my home.

WELL I LOVE THOSE NERVOUS EATERS , I LOVE THE REAL KIDS , LOVE THAT DMZ , HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT BARRENCE WHITFIELD? HE'S THE MAN , HE'S THE MAN......

Back in Your Life by Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers! It's so beautiful, and what's more punk than off-kilter bostonian doo-wop??

I recently heard the Reactions' "Talk Talk Talk Talk"!  It's damn cool!

 

http://youtu.be/xDK5tk5iZlw

 

E.J. Matze said:

Streets is a compilation album of early British punk rock bands from a variety of independent record labels.

Side one
"Trash" by The Doll
"Fear on the Streets" by The Members
"Be My Prisoner" by The Lurkers
"Isgodaman" by Arthur Comics
"Arabs in 'Arrads" by The art attacks
"19" by Dogs
"Talk Talk Talk Talk" by Reaction
"College Girls" by Cane
Side two
"Cranked Up Really High" by Slaughter & the Dogs
"Ain't Bin to No Music School" by The Nosebleeds
"Lookalikes" by The Drones
"Hungry" by Zeros
"Bend and Flush" by The Pork Dukes
"Disaster Movie" by Exile
"Jerkin" by Drive
"Innocents" by John Cooper Clarke
"No More Rock 'n' Roll" by Tractor

Regarding Canadian Punk of that era,

It seems like most of the best before 1980 was EP's and Singles, save for Teenage Head, and the Forgotten Rebels.
If we're gonna go before '76 though, Simply Saucer- Cyborgs Revisted is the best Proto punk from Canada.

Some fav Canadian songs are:

The Action- Downtown Boy

Bureaucrats- Grown Up Age

Viletones- Possibilities

K-Tels (aka Young Canadians)- Automan

Pointed Sticks- What do you want me to do

Da Slyme - Rocket in my Pocket

63 Monroe- Hi Jack Victim

Modernettes- Barbra

Rock'n'roll Bitches- Someone's gonna lose an Eye
The Fits- Bored of Education

I REALIZE , NOW, I TOLD THE ABOVE STORY ABOUT THE COUNT V , tho' I ELA -BORE - ATED A BIT MORE , EARLIER.

I HEARD THEY WERE STILL DOING GOOD , MAYBE NOT ALWAYS GREAT , SHOWS IN SAN JOSE UP UNTIL AROUND THE TIME , SINGER , SEAN BYRNE , DIED.                           PETE CURRY , FROM LOS STRAITJACKETS , TINGLE GUILD ( CHOCOLATE WATCHBAND OFFSHOOT.) , AND FOR ONE GIG ONLY , THE CHOCOLATE WATCHBAND THEMSELVES (HE'S BEEN ERRONEOUSLY LISTED AS AN ACTUAL BAND MEMBER IN THE 60'S) , TOLD ME "THE COUNT FIVE WERE THE WORST BAND IN SAN JOSE AT THE TIME !!".

picture doesn't show....?

anyhowz, the monsters compilation and then later more monster records.

and then my b/f played sonic nightmares and I got to learn about the hideout back in the day.

few years ago I guess.

bye

CHRIS , YOU GOT IT FOR YOUR birthday ? That's so cool. I had read about The Count Five in Jr. High (Middle School) and seen them , posed , in front of The Winchester Haunted House , with the insane exaggerated Brian Jones DO'S and Dracula capes . I loved Horror theatrics (Yes , I read about Lord Sutch around this time , too.) , and assumed maybe they were like a toned - down Alice Cooper or something.....But , being a wee small

 BAIRN , i COULD'NT AFFORD RECORDS , UNLESS THEY WERE USED LPS FOR 50 CENTS AT THE PAWN SHOP...  I saw a compilation , I think it was on Liberty (Of which Double - Shot WAS A SUBSIDARY ) , with "Psychotic Reaction" on it. I thought that was the trippiest name. I did'nt even know what it meant. But , I was'nt going to shell out half a dollar , out of curiosity ......But , I remember telling my Brother "Hey , I saw this old article about the original Punk Rock bands" ( 70's Punk was still happening at the time. The article was from your Story Of Pop.) He said , "Y'mean , like SLADE ?". I said , no , before them....I told him about the Count Five and their attire and everything , and he said , "That sounds IGNORANT AS HELL.".

It'd be a few years before I'd even hear "Psychotic Reaction" on the radio . Then , I realized , wow. This is a great song. I tried to imagine how it sounded to people , back then.

yEARS LATER , STILL , THERE WAS A GUY WITH A STALL AT THE FLEA MARKET i FREQUENTED . hE HAD ORIGINAL 50'S AND 60'S lpS , PLUS ALREADY - RARE REISSUES FROM EUROPE. I got "Psychotic Reaction" , the album ( On Line Records , in Germany).....for Christmas ! I know a lot of people don't like it , but , the album was remarkably consistent , considering they were'nt even old enough to buy beer , yet. A lot of their peers had two great songs , and FILLER. Their later singles were even better, I thought.

This flea market was so cool. One guy bought out the entire stock of a British record store , and opened a stall. Some of it was'nt so old. It was the first time I saw a Meteors record , which was only about 3 years old , then. Coolest thing was , they'd play the 'Girl Happy " soundtrack in the parking lot all the time. That's where I first heard "Do The Clam" ! 

Tyler said:

Chris....in terms of "indie pop"...i gotta go with Helen Love

I'll go with that, I quite like both the Ramones & Helen Love. The Spice Girls ripped Helen Love off, with their appropriation of the "Girl Power" slogan.  What else did the Bruddas Ramone influence?