It's funny that you ask this. I've always said, there are 2 kinds of people, Beatles and Stones, and they don't mix well. I am definitely Stones, my wife is Beatles. If only I'd asked 11 years ago...

That's interesting , because Lemmy is a huge Beatles fan , and claimed he used to see them play in Hamburg all the time. It's possible , I would NEVER dispute Lemmy (Who's a very nice guy , BTW.), but he has told stories , like witnessing the Allied intervention of Germany , in 1945 , when he would have still been an infant . That said , he's always marvelled at how tuff The Beatles were , at least , back when.  When I was in Jr. High , High School , before I got into Rockabilly and Garage in earnest , The Beatles and Stones were running neck and neck , for me . Later , The Stones took hold. I guess , because they seemed a LOT more influential on the stuff I like , now , than The Beatles - Who are , of course , totally influential , most people have heard the bulk of their back catalogue over and over, whereas , The Stones , and Elvis , too , for that matter , have a shitload of great songs that only the most hardened geeks , like myself , even know. A Stones tribute band has about 25 songs they can get away with playing , but  , if a Beatles tribute band wants to focus on one era , OR go across the board , it's still P.C.  MY EARLIEST MEMORIES OF THE BEATLES GO BACK TO 1968. I'm sure I heard The Rolling Stones , then , too , but , was'nt conscious of them until the early 70's.

I like some Pop  all right , but , generally , I go in for a grittier sound. The Stones even had some great Pop songs , too , but , you'd have to be a pretty big fan to know more than a few of them .
 
Dana V. Hatch said:

Lemmy pointed out that the story is the Beatles were goody goody and the Stones were tough but the opposite was true, Beatles tough determined working class lads, the Stones pampered upper middle class prats. Still I prefer the Stones' overt sex drugs and rock and roll stance over the Beatles' subtler subversion but I love both bands like my own food.

Totally,Richards talks about it in his book,that the Beatles first tour was pure Sex,Sex,Sex.But the Stones win with my too.

Lemmy pointed out that the story is the Beatles were goody goody and the Stones were tough but the opposite was true, Beatles tough determined working class lads, the Stones pampered upper middle class prats. Still I prefer the Stones' overt sex drugs and rock and roll stance over the Beatles' subtler subversion but I love both bands like my own food.

kinda funny age ole question

Yes, both pushing 70, and the last time I saw Charlie he was practically dying from the flu and still performed with more energy and rocked harder than just about any other punk singer I've seen of any age. Iggy Pop is 25 years older than I am and has twice the energy I had at my "peak".

Mike said:

Charlie Harper

Lemmy

Not as old as some of the other's mentioned, but I think they are both pushing 70.

I think of Hound Dog Taylor first, in his late 60's he was rocking harder than ever on Beware of the Dog! I'm 48 and I'll stop only when I'm dead or incapacitated. I think this question is the opposite of the pertinent question today. Step up yr game, you whippersnappers!

This week not I filled in for the Blues/Country show Some Folks Get The Blues followed by my usual program Revoltuion Rock.  I played music from The Phantom, Ty Segall & White Fence, Light Bulb Alley, Lost Patrol, The Damned, The Cramps, Johnny Cash and More. 

Download Revolution Blues (Some Folks Get The Blues Fill In) podcast here: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/536-Some_Folks_Get_The_Blues-2012...

Download Revolution Rock podcast here:  http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20120515-1030-...

Check out my blog post on The Phantom here:  http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2012/05/rockabilly-psychosis-phantom-sho...

 

Revolution Blues Play List:

1.  Lee Hazelwood – Run Boy Run

2.  Dan Sartain – I Don't Want To Go To The Party

3.  Dan Sartain - Love Is Crimosn

4.  James OL & The Villains – Late Night Drive (Demo)

5.  Johnny West – The Son Is A Red Ball Of Lies Tonight

6.  The Lonesome Weekends - Wheels

7.  Andre Williams & The Sadies - One Eyed Jack

8.  Magnificent Bastards – White Noize

9.  Johnny Cash – I Like The 309

10. Diamond Rugs – Out On My Own

11. John Mayal’s Bluesbreakers – Double Crossing Time

12. The Yardbirds – Psycho Daises

13. Tay Falco’s Panther Burns – Dateless Night

14. Jamie Coe – How Low Is Low

15. The Phantom – Tiger

16. Permanent Collection – It’s Alright

17. Ty Segall & White Fence – I Am Not A Game

18. The Spooky But Nice – Through The Night

19. Lost Patrol – You Just Care About Looks

20. Pointed Sticks – All That Matters (Stiff Sessions Version)

21. Hot Nasties – Lookin’ 4 U (Live)

22. The Meteors – Radioactive Kid

23. Visions – The Ghost

24. The Ride Theory – Devil In My Heart

 

Revolution Rock Play List:

25. The Phantom – Love Me

26. The Cramps – Mystery Plane

27. Modernettes – Won’t Have To Worry

28. The Black Angels – I’d Rather Be Lonely

29. The Kinks – Naggin’ Woman

30. The Gruesomes – Three Men One Coffin (Live)

31. Ramblin’ Ambassadors – Standoff At Calf Rrobe Bridge

32. The Space Plan – Trail The Rails 

33. The Features – City Scenes

34. The Carbonas – Hate You

35. Actual Water – Pencil Legged

36. The Cigarettes – All They Want Is Your Money

37. The Laughing Clowns – Laughing Clowns

38. Rotten Tropics – Nightmare Index

39. The Strokes – Life Is Simple In The Moonlight

40. Light Bulb Alley – Tonight

41. Seven Story Redhead - There's A Time To Get Down

42. The Locusts Have No King - Come One, Come All

43. Dirty Pretty Things - Plasttk Hearts

44. The Damned – She’s So Messed Up (Live)

45. Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers – London Boys

46. Xena Zerox - Seconds

47. Jam – Billy Hunt

48. The Adverts - Safety In Numbers

49. True Lovers – Love and Affection

 

I'm still confused by this whole thing. What's stopping you or me from making our own label, putting together a bunch of goofy compilations of tracks from other albums (without first getting the permission of the artists or songwriters, mind you), whip up a cover, and distribute them through The Orchard (and therefore make money from the sale of 'em on those sites)? Am I missing something here? I hope I am... cuz this just doesn't seem right.

trashman said:

nice work kopper.  I kept seeing The Orchard show up but thought it was one of the comp titles.  Hope someone tells Bob Taylor.

I see they feature the Raveonettes, Nancy Sinatra, Ryan Adams, Coldplay, Tommy Waits and hosts of others thru labels.

They include the Garage Masters Label in their database - search our catalog feature here

http://www.theorchard.com/music

nice work kopper.  I kept seeing The Orchard show up but thought it was one of the comp titles.  Hope someone tells Bob Taylor.

I see they feature the Raveonettes, Nancy Sinatra, Ryan Adams, Coldplay, Tommy Waits and hosts of others thru labels.

They include the Garage Masters Label in their database - search our catalog feature here

http://www.theorchard.com/music

I agree. They definitely look like bootlegs. That said, I did some digging and saw (on eMusic) that whomever is behind this label is using The Orchard for their digital distribution. I wasn't that familiar with The Orchard until I looked them up on Google and saw that they have a connection with IODA, and the site does say that they pay out royalties. Click here. So maybe anyone can just create a label like "Garage Masters" and start putting together comps like these and sell them as long as the distributor (in this case, The Orchard) handles royalty collection? That seems very odd to me...

Noticed this in the comment section on Amazon:

I was just told about the rather cool fact that some dude is actually trying to SELL my guitar work from almost 50 years ago! I'm Bob Taylor, the lead guitar player, arranger and writer of the cuts done by The Lancers, which actually includes the very FIRST cut, "Dr. Casey Twist," wrongly attributed to some guys called The Cornells! The sax player you hear is Gene Linfors, a doctor on the East Coast, and the rest of the guys are all alive and kicking and mostly still making music all around the country. Would you believe the self-titled album these three tunes were ripped from was cut and pressed as an LP in 1961 in the Panama Canal Zone? No kidding!

I LOVE the fact that our 50 year old music is magically out there on the net, but I wonder about the legality of trying to make a buck on somebody ELSE'S work and creative product.

Maybe the supposed "publisher/copyright holder" of THIS work product will inform us all about this question as HE sees it...

I have always been confused about this - I feel that in many instances the songwriters/artists do not own the rights to their songs.  So maybe the only deal that must be reached is with the producing companies who might own the rights.  Same goes for all the comps.  then the comp creators will chase down the blog sites on anyone who posts the recordings.

I would expect some level of legitimacy given the breadth of places you can buy the albums under that label.

but I hope someone with some real insight replies to the entire comp business.

i guess i haven't been paying much attention lately but apparently there's a bunch of digital releases on sites like Amazon.com and eMusic.com that sure look like bootlegs to me. case in point: check out the releases by "Garage Masters Records":

on eMusic

on Rdio

has anyone heard of Garage Masters before? i mean, c'mon, that "Halloween Garage Rock" comp has FIFTY-FIVE songs on it. "Roots of the Cramps" has 56! is any of this legit? here it is on Amazon, too. wtf?

maybe i'm wrong....maybe it's a legit label and royalties are being paid out to the songwriters/artists, but it sure does look shady to me.

I tried and got on. here is the link again. www.baconrock.com.  remember it is not a very progressive station, but mine is cool.  later bro, doornail

Sorry, the problem was on my end. Dot where there should have been a dash. It's all fixed up now.

http://radiofreak-out.com

Joanie Lindstrom said:

I'm not able to connect to that web site.  Problem on my end or yours?

hey Brotha, I would dig bein' a DJ on your station. I have a show now, but the atation is way too square for me, you dig.  My show is Kustom City Sounds, check it out Friday nights on www.baconrock.com  7 -11 p.m. (cst) .  Let me know what you think.  check out my page on here and my blog for playlists.  later, doornail

I would hardly call Jon Varvatos "posh."  Yes, it is expensive, but I would still rather see the spot put to that use than to see another corporate franchise in that same spot.  However, I understand where you're coming from.

Chris Henniker said:

I heard about this on 6Music yesterday. It's a good idea to keep it's memory alive, especially with the club's legacy being as vast as it is, it could be forgotten about. That said, it feels like it's just a cynical cash-in on the name. It could be an excuse to put on manufactured bands or indie landfill.

When I wrote for a Greenwich based magazine, my publisher and some mutual friends asked me if I was interested in going to a rave. "Isn't that a bit late 1980's?", I asked. Jamie, who would become the bass player for Klaxons chipped in: "It's a revival." I even wonder whether the ravers have ended up like the Teddy boys, just another nostalgia movement. Even Jamie said "new rave" was a joke. It could go the same way with CBGB, just a nostalgia movement or a joke.

Look at the Hacienda in Manchester, it closed due to problems with organised crime and is now a posh block of flats. No different to CBGB being supplanted by a posh boutique, which means the these venues (IN my opinion) are key to driving gentrification. IN New Cross, There is a pub called The Montague Arms, where I used to drink, which closed recently. A fairly well known music venue with some really awesome decor, such as stuffed deer heads, and it's sad to see it go.  I glimpsed a local paper to see that it closed. It's sad, but  as Johnny Thunders said: "You Can't put your arms around a memory."

I heard about this on 6Music yesterday. It's a good idea to keep it's memory alive, especially with the club's legacy being as vast as it is, it could be forgotten about. That said, it feels like it's just a cynical cash-in on the name. It could be an excuse to put on manufactured bands or indie landfill.

When I wrote for a Greenwich based magazine, my publisher and some mutual friends asked me if I was interested in going to a rave. "Isn't that a bit late 1980's?", I asked. Jamie, who would become the bass player for Klaxons chipped in: "It's a revival." I even wonder whether the ravers have ended up like the Teddy boys, just another nostalgia movement. Even Jamie said "new rave" was a joke. It could go the same way with CBGB, just a nostalgia movement or a joke.

Look at the Hacienda in Manchester, it closed due to problems with organised crime and is now a posh block of flats. No different to CBGB being supplanted by a posh boutique, which means the these venues (IN my opinion) are key to driving gentrification. IN New Cross, There is a pub called The Montague Arms, where I used to drink, which closed recently. A fairly well known music venue with some really awesome decor, such as stuffed deer heads, and it's sad to see it go.  I glimpsed a local paper to see that it closed. It's sad, but  as Johnny Thunders said: "You Can't put your arms around a memory."

May 15th playlist is up!

Listen here:

www.mediazoic.com/jambone-scuzz

Whitecaps - The Mummies

American Wedding - Gogol Bordello

Modern Love - David Bowie

Nightmares - Jay Reatard

Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie - Black Flag

Billion Dollar Babies - Alice Cooper

Thrash Unreal - Against Me

Coming Home - TNG

All The Young Dudes - Mott the Hoople

Rocket - The Sinisters

Volcano (Live) - The Meteopathics

U N UR FRNDS - HORSEBEAR

Night Danger - Miesha and the Spanks

C.C. - The Tramadols

I Hate the World - Take Drugs

Rat Stomp - The Jitters

Last Caress - The Misfits

Nanny Cam - Real Cassingles

Down on the Street - The Stooges

Waltz Me Dirty - Sluts on 45

Hey Andras, thanks for commenting man, and I'm glad you dig the site.  Us fans of the oddballs are scattered all over but my hope is to bring us together through the site.  The Kapas are cool, and still sorta affordable.  The Minstrel was one of Kapa's more rare offerings, and had unique pickups for the Kapa line of guitars.  Good taste man!!  And I checked out your music, what fuzz are you using?  Mosrite fuzz box?

Hey Franco,

I too am crazy for trashy electric guitars from the 1960s.  For me, it's not just their unconventional sound, it's the way their primitive electronics produce so many unexpected glitches, pops and squeals -- sublime!

In THEE DIRTYBEATS, we embrace old electrics for exactly these reasons:  typically, I am skittering leads across the top of Jamie's buzzing vintage Mosrite using a '67 KAPA Minstrel teardrop (see pic below).  The contrast of odd guitar sounds works well, and the random bizarre feedback effects, pings, and shrieks just add to the fun.

Thanks for a great website.  So much for my afternoon -- will be on it for hours...

Best,

Andras

THEE DIRTYBEATS maximum vintage garage
http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com

Alice's bit is great in "Dark Shadows" . Good non - suck 70's soundtrack (OK , SOME OF IT SUCKS.). CHRISTOPHER LEE HAS A SHORT CAMEO , AND THE LATE JONATHAN FRID , WELL , BLINK AND YOU'LL MISS HIM.
 
John Battles said:

Boy , there's almost never been bad casting FOR Renfield , Dwight Frye , Klaus Kinski , and now , Tom Waits......Elvira (Cassandra Peterson) is on the cover of his "Small Change " (OR IS IT "LOOSE cHANGE"...And , I got the good wordie that Alice Cooper has a cameo in "Dark Shadows , doing "The Ballad of Dwight Frye"...
 
The Pulsebeats said:

Another one of ol' Tom

Jack Russell and the Terrors

OK I like this one best of all. And it has artwork!

Robert J. Fait said:

One of the favorite names I've come up with was "The Groucho Marxists". I even created some artwork. I spent too long thinking about it and someone else ended up using it. I should see if they want to buy my graphics.