Wild Billy Childish gotta be up there for the British beat sound. just heard some of his new stuff in the last week. Not lost any of his edge or diatribe! Lovely

I just immediately thought of Jay Reatard and John Dwyer, but I'm talkin' heroes of the 00s. 

Thanks for all the great suggestions! Some old favorites I was reminded of, some current favorites, & some I've never heard (los Saicos, the Scarred, & the Von Zippers.) You kids got good taste!

Ty Segall, Singles 2007-2010

black monk time.

YES ! TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TA ! YA ! YA ! YA! YA !    Sorry , can't stop  doing that. Good pick , Mina.
 
Mina said:

One day when I was 10 or 11 I got these cds borrowed from my cousin.

 Bry , I only heard that this is the year of the Dragon. But , Dragons can be right c*nts , can't they....In fact , pretty much the only "Garage" band functioning tn Chicago from the late 70's to the late 80's was The C*nts. Nerver mentioned when the "Glory Days of Chicago Punk" is discussed (Niether is J. Henry Timmis IV , The ( Chicago) Misfits (Later The Victims ) , Beluga and The Human Ashtrays , The Lord of Lightning (Maximum Black Rock , not Punk , but plenty Lo - Fi / DIY.) . They made a point of doing an occasonal gig for some friends , and that was about it. I met the Drummer ,and gave him my number , saying please call if there's a gig. Never heard from him.   In the late 80's , there WAS Fang Beach (Straight up covers of "Nuggets " type songs.) , DIMENTIA 13 (BARRETT - INSPIRED HEAVY PSYCH - ROCK , BUT STILL KINDA POPPY. I sat in with them a lot.), and The Sindells , a little later (Feat. Eric Reidelberger , later in fuckin ' champion Mod Psychsters , Civilized Age , also Lava Sutra - spinoff , Fancy Trolls , as well as Mistletoe Beltbuckle , with Rudi Protrudi. They had a former Sonic Youth Drummer for a while , and , of course , "Joe Garage " , Bob Bucholz , later in The Havox.).....But , there was no "Garage Scene". You'd go and see The Cynics , Royal Nonesuch , or The Chesterfield Kings on a good night (Before they began flirting with Metal ) , and maybe meet 5 people who also "Got it'.

SHERI MOON

BLACK RYDER :)

Hey, did these guys submit this song for the latest Hideout comp?  :P

First video that pops to mind is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcL0mjMjw&ob=av2e

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

This is hilarious ! I can only take a few minutes of it , but , still. It looks like a High School project. Or just some kids that snuck into a garage with maybe two digital cameras (If it was shot on video , at least , it might have LOOKED cool.). The Goblins (Masked superhero Joke Rock BAND.) did a thing like this . Short story long : They'd staged an imaginary disagreement between themselves and the insanely overrated Tortoise , on "Chic - A - Go Go" . One program was interrupted by an animated Ninja Turtle (Representing "Tortoise " , get it? ) telling viewers he had unreleased footage of "Your precious Goblins" - Then we see handheld footage of a VERY bad High School Rock band (Only arguably better than this , because it does'nt sound like prison rape or Ministry , Jr.), doing off kilter versions of "Paranoid" and "Anarchy in The U.K.", in a gymnasium !

That is'nt worse , but ,in the meantime , may I suggest Alan Gillette ? 

Whatever it is, I feel pretty confident that it can't top this!

HA HAAAAAA !!!! I used to think that , too !

Ted said:

Led Zeppelin "Whole Lotta Love" :You need kool-aid,baby im not foolin' (you need coolin',baby I'm not foolin'

It's possible you've got "Smell of Female" all sewn up. I don't know.

"Potentate" has that one riff that's similar to "My Little Red Book" , but , probably not enough to suggest that that's where it came from (Quien Save?)....

Of course "Wighat" has a little bit of "Limbo Time" thrown in , just a little.

Their version of "Faster , Pussycat " utilizes part of a Davie Allan song from "The Wild Angels"as a bridge. I'm not saying they did it note - for - note , but , it's dead close. Sorry , I can never remember the names of instrumentals (They don't have words.), but , I always heard it that way.  "Primitive" IS "Smokestack Lightning" , the guitar parts. I just was'nt thinking about it.  I heard both for the first time , The Cramps for the former and The Yardbirds for the latter , late in '81 , and went , WTF !!!    Also , "Weekend on Mars" , which was only available as a French 45 , and on the French 45 "Smell of Female Set", is widely believed to be based on P.J.Proby's early kickass Rockabilly Rocker "Go , Girl, Go" (As Jett Powers.). I can sure hear it.

Kid Congo once told me that Lux and Ivy were very good at putting together their own songs from bits and pieces of existing songs. He did'nt tellme about any other sourcesyou might not have heard of , though.
 
John Battles said:

Oh , I was having a laugh , is all , when I said , "Yes , The Cramps actually wrote their own material". But , a lot of people give them heat just because a lot of their songs recall lesser - known songs (Which , as you said , is a good part of the fun , finding out what THEY were influenced by.)....But , I've never been convinced about the connection between "New Kind of Kick" and "He's Waitin'"....Those opening riffs are similar , but , not the same . I know the underlying chords "It's too late , you lied" "I'm lookin' and lookin' for..." are very close , but , I think , if anything , they probably decided it was a good idea to put lyrics to something that sounded LIKE "He's Waitin'" , but not exactly like it....
 
Mitchhz said:

Of course, I know that the Cramps did write their own material! Or some of it! But part of their legacy is the discovery of a whole new world. So thanks for the tips, I'll continue my exploration. The Cramps had impeccable taste!

Off the Bone (1983)

Human Fly: yes people say it's Green Mosquito by the Tune Rockers but I'm not convinced. I find Kick Out by surf band The Safaris (on Wail on the Beach compilation) sounds much more like Human Fly !

The Way I Walk: Jack Scott

Domino: Roy Orbison

Surfin' Bird: The Trashmen

Lonesome Town: Ricky Nelson

(Garbageman)

(Fever)

Drug Train: Bill Allen, Please Give Me Something

Love Me: The Phantom

I Can't Hardly Stand It: Charlie Feathers

(Goo Goo Muck)

She Said: Hasil Adkins

(The Crusher)

Save It: Mel Robbins

New Kind of Kicks: The Sonics, He's Waiting

Smell of Female (1983 mini-LP)

Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love: ?

You Got Good Taste: ?

Call of the Wighat: ?

Faster Pussycat: The Boss Tweeds, soundtrack to Faster Pussycat Kill Kill

Ain't Nuthin but a Gorehound: ?

Psychotic Reaction: The Count V

1985 maxi single

Can Your Pussy do the Dog: Del Raney's Umbrellas, Can Your Hossie Do the Dog (for the title only?)

Blue Moon Baby: Dave Diddle Day

Georgia Lee Brown: Jackie Lee Cochran

1986 maxi single

What's Inside a Girl: ?

Get Off the Road: R Lewis Band

Give Me a Woman: Andy Starr

Oh , I was having a laugh , is all , when I said , "Yes , The Cramps actually wrote their own material". But , a lot of people give them heat just because a lot of their songs recall lesser - known songs (Which , as you said , is a good part of the fun , finding out what THEY were influenced by.)....But , I've never been convinced about the connection between "New Kind of Kick" and "He's Waitin'"....Those opening riffs are similar , but , not the same . I know the underlying chords "It's too late , you lied" "I'm lookin' and lookin' for..." are very close , but , I think , if anything , they probably decided it was a good idea to put lyrics to something that sounded LIKE "He's Waitin'" , but not exactly like it....
 
Mitchhz said:

Of course, I know that the Cramps did write their own material! Or some of it! But part of their legacy is the discovery of a whole new world. So thanks for the tips, I'll continue my exploration. The Cramps had impeccable taste!

Off the Bone (1983)

Human Fly: yes people say it's Green Mosquito by the Tune Rockers but I'm not convinced. I find Kick Out by surf band The Safaris (on Wail on the Beach compilation) sounds much more like Human Fly !

The Way I Walk: Jack Scott

Domino: Roy Orbison

Surfin' Bird: The Trashmen

Lonesome Town: Ricky Nelson

(Garbageman)

(Fever)

Drug Train: Bill Allen, Please Give Me Something

Love Me: The Phantom

I Can't Hardly Stand It: Charlie Feathers

(Goo Goo Muck)

She Said: Hasil Adkins

(The Crusher)

Save It: Mel Robbins

New Kind of Kicks: The Sonics, He's Waiting

Smell of Female (1983 mini-LP)

Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love: ?

You Got Good Taste: ?

Call of the Wighat: ?

Faster Pussycat: The Boss Tweeds, soundtrack to Faster Pussycat Kill Kill

Ain't Nuthin but a Gorehound: ?

Psychotic Reaction: The Count V

1985 maxi single

Can Your Pussy do the Dog: Del Raney's Umbrellas, Can Your Hossie Do the Dog (for the title only?)

Blue Moon Baby: Dave Diddle Day

Georgia Lee Brown: Jackie Lee Cochran

1986 maxi single

What's Inside a Girl: ?

Get Off the Road: R Lewis Band

Give Me a Woman: Andy Starr

That's true. Good Artists borrow. Great Artists STEAL.  But , I think Mitchhz is just trying to get a feel for where these songs originated , and add what he already knows . There are , of course , obvious and less obvious sources that go into writing a song. If you've ever written a song of your own , chances are , it was inspired , or blatantly ripped off from , something else.
 
Sam Sinister said:

"The Crusher" from Off The Bone was originally by The Novas.

I don't really know why you're counting a lot of these as originals of the Cramps' songs. Borrowing a riff or a beat or the "feel" of a song doesn't really count for much in this type of music (punk, garage, rockabilly, etc.), in my opinion. Everyone is derivative of everyone else, it's part of the appeal. ;)

Yeah well perhaps I souldn't have used the word 'originals'. There are no originals, there's always something that's come before! See for example this page about Misirlou: http://www.dinosaurgardens.com/archives/297. There was even a better one with videos embedded that I found some months ago but I can't find it any longer.

The legacy of the Rivingtons is huge. Papa-Oo-Mow-Mow (or Mama-Oo-Mow-Mow which is even better) and The Bird's the Word have inspired hundreds of fantastic songs, some of them little known like Surfin' Bird by Wade Curtiss or Papa-Oo-Mao-Mao by the Deviants.

But what I like is suddenly discovering that a song I was so familiar with had in fact an 'oroginal'. For example, I was so delighted when I finally got to hear the 'original' version of Tainted Love (Gloria Jones) or I Want Candy by the Strangeloves and not Bow-Wow-Wow...

 Dennis Coffey ? Shit , yeah. I'm in the itsy bitsy , teeny weenie , so small you can't see it , minority that prefers Andre's R'n'B stuff. My favorite , more recent , albums are the two Norton albums. Most people don't like 'em , because they're not "Punk Rock enough". Whatever. I used to always go see Andre , from his first Chicago comeback show in '96 , on....But , I have'nt seen him in years. He has'nt been playing a lot , either. I went to his book release party , that was GREAT. All these yuppies were making lots of noise , and we could'nt hear Andre , until he said "AND THEN SHE BIT HIS MUTHAFUCKIN' DICK OFF !!!". Suddenly , they all split for the MANY more yuppie - friendly bars on Division Street.

Oh , and Greasy Carlisi is probably better known in "Our world" for his work alongside Ron Asheton in Dark Carnival.

From BLURT: http://blurt-online.com/news/view/5846/

By Blurt Staff

Due February 28, Hoods and Shades is soulman Andre Williams' fourth Bloodshot Records full-length release, and perhaps his most intriguing and thematically driven. Self-dubbed "the Andre Williams folk album", he recruited his Detroit boys (and then some) to put together a collection of nine songs that collectively play out like an afternoon hangout among musical roadmen, chatting of their experiences through their instruments.

Making contributions are: renowned Grammy Award-winning producer Don Was on upright bass, Motown legend/Funk Brother Dennis Coffey on acoustic and electric guitars, Dirty Three drummer Jim White, Greasy Carlisi (Robert Gordon, Chris Spedding) and Jim Diamond (Dirtbombs) on electric bass, and longtime producer Matthew Smith (Nathaniel Mayer, Outrageous Cherry, Volebeats).

Hoods and Shades brings together Andre Williams' signature low-end purr and suggestive come-ons ("Gimme", "I've Got Money on My Mind"), alongside clear-eyed cautionary tales ("A Good Day to Feel Bad", "Hoods and Shades") from someone who has been on the street long enough to know. In his past, the longtime R&B legend Williams most famously wrote "Shake A Tail Feather," and sang proto-punk cult classics like "Bacon Fat" (covered by the Cramps), "Greasy Chicken," and the epitome of songs about underage girls, "Jail Bait." Additionally, he once paid his dues and honed his unique musical outlook at seminal labels such as Motown, Chess, and Fortune. He also wrote and produced for artists Ike Turner, Parliament/Funkadelic, Edwin Starr and Stevie Wonder. In 2008, Andre was the subject of the gritty documentary, "Agile Mobile Hostile."

Hey, I'd like to mention Cool Cats, a book of R&R photos and some essays. It goes from the 50s up to the early 80s.

Also, some subculture books: Subculture, the Meaning of Style, by Dick Hebdige

Skinhead, by Nik Knight [this guy does fashion photography now]

Reggae International, by Stephen Davis and Peter Simon

Mods, by Richard Barnes [he also did the who, maximum r&b]

and a fiction book, Absolute Beginners, by colin macinnes [early mod]