Well I was in college between 1986 and 1991 and like all college experiences, I was just experimenting....
ixnayray said:
I was kdding, man. I'd rather listen to The Ventures than De La Soul too!
ratoonie said:
Yes ; you are right!! its not in my face... Iwill throw in the towel ... its obvious that i am a minority here... i will bowe out of this discusian Like a Gentleman... maybe I'll put on some Ventures "Walk dont Run"
ixnayray said:
Well it's not exactly "in your face", is it?
Is it Hip-Hop you hate... or Rap? Because they are two different things.
ratoonie said:
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
Garage music IS gang music. Didn't you listen to Rumble? The Sonics were a gang.
ratoonie said:
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
I can dig some of the newer underground stuff, but a lot of it is way too overproduced. I like the old stuff and some of the later nineties (Roots, Hieroglyphics, ETC.). The radio shit, however, is fucking disco, plain and simple, so hopefully it dies out soon.
I was kdding, man. I'd rather listen to The Ventures than De La Soul too!
ratoonie said:
Yes ; you are right!! its not in my face... Iwill throw in the towel ... its obvious that i am a minority here... i will bowe out of this discusian Like a Gentleman... maybe I'll put on some Ventures "Walk dont Run"
ixnayray said:
Well it's not exactly "in your face", is it?
Is it Hip-Hop you hate... or Rap? Because they are two different things.
ratoonie said:
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
Yes ; you are right!! its not in my face... Iwill throw in the towel ... its obvious that i am a minority here... i will bowe out of this discusian Like a Gentleman... maybe I'll put on some Ventures "Walk dont Run"
ixnayray said:
Well it's not exactly "in your face", is it?
Is it Hip-Hop you hate... or Rap? Because they are two different things.
ratoonie said:
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
Well it's not exactly "in your face", is it?
Is it Hip-Hop you hate... or Rap? Because they are two different things.
ratoonie said:
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
i never would have thought that when i joined this site that i would have this kinda shit in my face....Comparing Gang music to garage music is like comparing heaven to hell....when im forced to hear Rap ..my blood boils as if i were in hell!!!!
Probably the most excellent posting so far in favor of rap and hip hop. Not familiar with Watts Prophets but I became familiar with Last Poets on a CD from MOJO that Iggy Pop compiled of favorite tunes and he chose a piece called "Wake Up, Nigger". I brought the CD to work one time and was playing it because I liked all the tunes Iggy chose but then was told to turn it off as soon as Last Poets came on. HA!
But I have to disagree with the Beastie Boys comment. They only became an alternative act when mainstream rap started turning into garbage. They were one of the first groups to see that hip hop was as much a street music as punk was and were just as influenced by Grandmaster Flash as they were by hard rock and punk rock groups. They and Rick Rubin were a match made in heaven. Too bad they had a falling out. Vanilla Ice came a long time after Beastie Boys. I really don't care for what they put out since Paul's Boutique but at least they know what they want to do. Vanilla Ice doesn't have a clue and just imitates everything he comes across.
Brother Panti-Christ said:
Wow, seems we have a general consensus that Hip Hop and Rap is a very good music indeed. This place never ceases to surprise me!
I love Hip Hop, and easily find it's links into the great punk music of the past. I grew up in High School with cool shit like Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash. I loved it but never bought any records in those days. In the late 80's living in L.A. I used to listen to KDAY AM, which was a proudly black owned and operated radio station and playing extremely cool (and also not so cool) 50's to 80's R&B, Soul and Funk music. On the weekends around midnight they would give up the turntables and mics for the young DJs around the Compton and Watts areas to play the new sounds of the streets. I tell ya, my hair would be standing on the back of my neck listening to these broadcasts, live mixes and rapping in a totally new form, it was fucking exciting and punk as fuck. 'Fuck The Police' by NWA pumping through my AM radio receiver in a menacing MONO was extremely exhilarating (not to mention all the helicopters constantly flying over my Hollywood home to complete the soundtrack). It gave me the same feeling that I had the first time listening to the mid 60's garage masters, I just loved it immediately.
I think in each musical movement there is 5% originality and 95% imitation/duplication. I've been hunting down that 5% in all forms of music. And like Rock N Roll, Rap and Hip Hop always proven to me there are always new ways to kick dead horse! There has been rapping going on since the beginning of recorded history, but perhaps this RAP form jelled with the likes of artists such as The Watts Prophets, Gil Scott-Heron or The Last Poets in the late 60's. And as years pass there is always another amazing group or demographic area that spawn some hot new grooves.
I would love to hear some of the Garage Punk podcasters playing some of their old Hip Hop faves, even dedicating a whole show would be fine by me (just not too often, aight?). If you got good taste in Rock N Roll then it's DAMN possible you know some kick ass Hip Hop tunes too.
And actually to somehow keep with the theme of the thread, I never really dug the Beastie Boys rap era, and I always considered them the big label's 'alternative White Boy' rap act after creating a niche market from the success of Vanilla Ice. OUCH!
Wow, seems we have a general consensus that Hip Hop and Rap is a very good music indeed. This place never ceases to surprise me!
I love Hip Hop, and easily find it's links into the great punk music of the past. I grew up in High School with cool shit like Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash. I loved it but never bought any records in those days. In the late 80's living in L.A. I used to listen to KDAY AM, which was a proudly black owned and operated radio station and playing extremely cool (and also not so cool) 50's to 80's R&B, Soul and Funk music. On the weekends around midnight they would give up the turntables and mics for the young DJs around the Compton and Watts areas to play the new sounds of the streets. I tell ya, my hair would be standing on the back of my neck listening to these broadcasts, live mixes and rapping in a totally new form, it was fucking exciting and punk as fuck. 'Fuck The Police' by NWA pumping through my AM radio receiver in a menacing MONO was extremely exhilarating (not to mention all the helicopters constantly flying over my Hollywood home to complete the soundtrack). It gave me the same feeling that I had the first time listening to the mid 60's garage masters, I just loved it immediately.
I think in each musical movement there is 5% originality and 95% imitation/duplication. I've been hunting down that 5% in all forms of music. And like Rock N Roll, Rap and Hip Hop always proven to me there are always new ways to kick dead horse! There has been rapping going on since the beginning of recorded history, but perhaps this RAP form jelled with the likes of artists such as The Watts Prophets, Gil Scott-Heron or The Last Poets in the late 60's. And as years pass there is always another amazing group or demographic area that spawn some hot new grooves.
I would love to hear some of the Garage Punk podcasters playing some of their old Hip Hop faves, even dedicating a whole show would be fine by me (just not too often, aight?). If you got good taste in Rock N Roll then it's DAMN possible you know some kick ass Hip Hop tunes too.
And actually to somehow keep with the theme of the thread, I never really dug the Beastie Boys rap era, and I always considered them the big label's 'alternative White Boy' rap act after creating a niche market from the success of Vanilla Ice. OUCH!
here is some dope ass old RAP:
I can totally dig what original HIP HOPPERs all you guys mentioned! NWA were boss in "Express yourself." Public Enemy are Killer, early Beastie Boys - yessir! To me, HIP HOP always was a continued oral history of the sorts of musical traditions of Blues, Gospel, Soul, RNB, Rock'n'Roll and what ever inbetween.
It would have felt kinda weird listening to music from those periods and not to the momentary "black" music incarnations. Also, Tiki, I feel the same about the creative background of the basic HIP HOP movement.
For me Hip-Hop (Rap) was about the last "new" kinda music, after Punk, that really felt like being something completely new and unique. By now it's just another Style down the road, but I still have some great records I'd never give away, from some Oldschool NY-Stylez (of the late 70ies/early 80ies) to the dopey-tunes of Cypress Hill (the first band I knew, using looped sonds of "the Seeds") and many others, ... and on and on and on ... till the break'a'- break'a'-dawn.
The best idea about Hip-Hop was, that anyone was considered being "part of the movement", as long as they're "active" within this scene (by dancing, painting, makin' music ...). A great & creative approach I think.
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OCEAN PALACE said:
i looked rockin rod up on google and he is in a band, the band sound good as well. The who though are mint. who is gonna win the world cup?
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:
Why don't you look me up in google. I really don't have time to reference myself.
Ross Jesus Navaro Richards said:
OH dear.. ROCKIN ROD SAID... ''Ok, I've never seen it and I really don't like it when people assume that everybody here has seen and heard everything and know every little thing about culture.'' ETC ETC... M8.. get off yer high horse.. what the fuck are u talkin about>!>!>! Im just talkin, throwin in names... jesus. oh theres one, he was a dude from long time back, long hair and supposedly done tons o shit,, check him out!
M8, u can always not get involved, u know... not reply.. I cant be bothered with your hang ups.. Is this site so weird people have to attack anything that doesnt turn clockwise in their world.. who are you anyway?
Why don't you look me up in google. I really don't have time to reference myself.
Ross Jesus Navaro Richards said:
OH dear.. ROCKIN ROD SAID... ''Ok, I've never seen it and I really don't like it when people assume that everybody here has seen and heard everything and know every little thing about culture.'' ETC ETC... M8.. get off yer high horse.. what the fuck are u talkin about>!>!>! Im just talkin, throwin in names... jesus. oh theres one, he was a dude from long time back, long hair and supposedly done tons o shit,, check him out!
M8, u can always not get involved, u know... not reply.. I cant be bothered with your hang ups.. Is this site so weird people have to attack anything that doesnt turn clockwise in their world.. who are you anyway?
Hey, if you wanna get some kinda jungle-swamp-suffocating-goth thrill, check THE SOUL DERVISH .
You may enjoy...and he's a friend of ours (though I'm not sure he's still alive).
Or, check this dead cool thing : THE HOUSE OF WILD DELIGHTS #3 .
He's another friend ours...but I'm not sure he's still alive too !
Fucking suicidal freaks !
OK, I'm half-containing myself... ONLY HALF!
AWESOME! HELLA SWELL!
Now, that streaming business is all fine and dandy BUT you fine guys just (PLEASE) GOT to record that as a downloadable podcast!
You are right, I could just snap it off the net with a audio-recording device when it airs, but I will be away from the internets at that time this is on, most possibly, so... big sissy wheep if I won't get to hear that one!
Checked out the Black Eyed Snakes, "Good Woman Blues" and their cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Smokestack Lighting." That 's exactly the sound I am looking for. As for any pedals, I'd like to go with the real thing and take my chances with too much distortion. So I think I am going to stick with the Green Bullet. As for telephone mics, that's not quite what I had in mind though I am sure they would have their applications. Thanks to everyone for your input. You've been very helpful.
