there is no real reason to dislike the fabs (apart from you genuinely don't like the music). Yes, they were successful and yes, they were four annoying twats from Liverpool, but together they wrote/played some fantastic tunes, and they were innovators - Sgt Pepper arguably changed the 'pop' landscape and the white album was just plain amazin'!

the amazing aspect of The Beatles is that the older I get, the more I appreciate their professionalism.  They and George Martin, painted a soundscape on each and every song.  The lyrics, music and swagger all fit nicely into each little song package.  I went through that I am too cool for The Beatles phase for a long time, but then I started really listening.  Wow, the craftsmanship, the pure pop as art ethos is here in those grooves.  It is as though, each song is a separate, yet integral part of a whole piece.  Each song adding another  layer to the painting.  I fought this for a long time, but finally I had the epiphany of their artistry. Now, I am continually discovering new aspects of their songs.  I am at peace with this epiphany too.  I guess with age comes clarity, or the realization that The Beatles have always been that good.    

I think with the Beatles and also Elvis, well you spend your entire life hearing about how they are God and the most amazing people ever, genius, so talented, etc... and then you hear them and how can anybody live up to that? 

Nobody ever can really. 

Anyway it isn't that important that everyone loves the Beatles, but you should least respect the Beatles and how important they are in rnr history. 

I don't think there's any real good reason to dislike the Beatles as a whole because they DO have a wide range and some are going to like the long hair hippies more than the mop tops.  To hate everything they ever did I think is kind of ridiculous.  Yes, they are tame in comparison to almost everything we've come to enjoy but would we have anything to enjoy if it wasn't for them.  I think a lot of the fifties acts would have become forgotten relics (even Elvis) if a band like the Beatles hadn't come along to remind us of what came before.  I think a lot of bands like the Stones and the Kinks would have had a tougher time in the States if the Beatles hadn't been around having their first round of hit singles paving the way.  Different in style, but a big reason a lot of the following groups even got a listen was that they were British and kids were going to listen to anything British thanks to the Beatles.  Otherwise, they probably would have got lost in the shuffle just like British acts before the Beatles (like Cliff Richard or somebody of that ilk).

You have what's like your own little Norwegian Wood story going on here.  Sorry about the sad twist at the end but cool that she took the time to turn you onto something.

G. Wood said:

When I was a snotty little kid in '63 or '64, my snotty little friends and I used to make fun of this new big teenage fad, The Beatles. "John Lemmon, what a sourpuss!" One day my friend's older sister, maybe she was 15 or so, asked me if I'd actually ever heard The Beatles. She took me up to her room and put Meet The Beatles on the player. Up until then, I hadn't payed much attention to music, outside of the the stuff my parents sometimes listened to, like Marty Robbins, Roger Miller, Moon River, Sink The Bismark, Grand Canyon Suite, and other odds & ends, plus vague memories of earlier doo wop and teeny pop.

I don't know if it was the music alone, or a sophisticated 'older woman' paying attention to me. What I know is that day changed my life. Meet The Beatles was the most exciting thing I ever heard. I got a transistor radio. I started combing my hair different. I lost all interest in baseball cards and comic books. Soon, I got a guitar. 

Sadly, my friend's sister died the next year, in a diving accident. The family moved away. But I continued to rock, to this very day.

Peter. Sorry for the delayed reply, there's been some family illness which has thrown everything out of the window for the last week. Like the track & video, particularly the attention to detail in both. You're obviously a good engineer, great snare sound. I like the clean tone going into the fuzz tone on the Danelectro. I can't believe they are now £156.00 at Thomann, I want a green one! Trouble is if you buy up all the great affordable stuff there is out there you can't save up for the biggies. Right now I want a real reverb tank & a Marr Jaguar so much it hurts, oops that's £2100! Overloud sounds really interesting & affordable, I'm confused by different links to it, do you know which is the right one? Is your band gigging?

Yup, thanks for that.

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hey...in a sense yeah, though not literally there's a heapin' dose of what you're lookin' for in a few books (mainly small press but still findable if you really wanna search) like Flip Side by Jim Oldsberg, We Gotta Go Now (a home made personal account of one guy's band/experiences) by Dennis A Blackledge, Yes, Phoenix Had Music In The Sixties by Edward Wincentsen, A History Of Garage & Frat Bands In Memphis 1960-75 by Ron Hall, Land of a Thousand Dances by Reyes & Waldman, Savage Lost by Jeffrey Lemlich all deal with or touch on the subject in a big way...there's loads more plus the greatest 2 information sources on this earth: Kicks Magazine (which turned into Norton Records) considered to be the greatest rock n roll zine of all time AND Lost and Found, massive issues (maybe 5 or 6 were published) by a young Deke Dickerson & others are still now,  shocking in their sheer tonnage of info on that & close subjects, i read 'em over & over all the time since the 80's. And of course the hundreds of other 80's-90's garage oriented fanzines, which i will, one day, make a list of...

We're not aware of an all-encompassing book on the subject, but Peter Blecha's Sonic Boom! is a very detailed, in-depth book on the Northwest scene.  Although it's timeline goes up to grunge, the main emphasis is on 1962-1966.  Learned a lot from it.

http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Boom-History-Northwest-Rock/dp/0879309466

After readin' Dave Marsh's Louie Louie fer what might be to the point of memorization, riddle me this crazy-kids: Does a book on 1960s Frat-rock &/or party classics, such as "Hanky Panky", "Surfin' Bird", "Tequila", "Double Shot (of My Baby's Love)" & natch the aforementioned cream of the heap, exist in the wide world of sorts?

Hells Yeah!!!

CRAIG MOORE said:

GONN is now all 60+ and I'm 65... we just put out a new album called "GONN 45 Fully Loaded" that's just as energetic as "Blackout Of Gretely" or "Doin' Me In" although of course those 2 tracks captured lightning in a bottle for a bunch of teenagers.  In 1967 people thought I screamed too much on "Doin' Me In", now I'm listening to the new album and I'M  wondering if I'm screaming too much! Ha! NEVER! God bless The Trashmen, The Sonics, The Pretty Things, The Sorrows, Jim McCarty, Pete Townshend, Roger Daltrey, Ray Davies, Eric Burdon, Paul McCartney, all still at it, even my friend Rudi Protrudi is 50+, the second generation is getting up there too, damn the torpedoes, full scream ahead --- Aaaaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhhh!

GONN is now all 60+ and I'm 65... we just put out a new album called "GONN 45 Fully Loaded" that's just as energetic as "Blackout Of Gretely" or "Doin' Me In" although of course those 2 tracks captured lightning in a bottle for a bunch of teenagers.  In 1967 people thought I screamed too much on "Doin' Me In", now I'm listening to the new album and I'M  wondering if I'm screaming too much! Ha! NEVER! God bless The Trashmen, The Sonics, The Pretty Things, The Sorrows, Jim McCarty, Pete Townshend, Roger Daltrey, Ray Davies, Eric Burdon, Paul McCartney, all still at it, even my friend Rudi Protrudi is 50+, the second generation is getting up there too, damn the torpedoes, full scream ahead --- Aaaaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhhh!

The butterfly effect in music too.....sounds interesting :):):)

Time to queue up The Clash's "White Riot" for an outsider's perspective from across the pond. Prophetic perhaps and strangely enough The Clash were Johnny Ramone's 2nd best pick for top ten punk bands of all time after The Ramones themselves.  Or "Smash  It Up" by the Damned might do nicely. Funny how the brits emulated the Ramones' buzzsaw guitar somewhat then changed the lyrics and tone of the soundtrack while there was real unrest (strikes, riots etc) in England at the time. Perhaps there is a delayed reaction in the US that goes beyond the Ramonesesque quitar sound that you hear on car commercials. Some kind of unintentional butterfly effect I guess . . .
 
sleazy said:

And it's exactly this OBNOXIOUIS contadiction that many have woken up to and are getting ready to WIPE out....luckily I say....if you haven't noticed yet, there are people ready to pick up whatever they can find in the streets and smash up everything. Seattle was the 2nd indication....and NO, no worries, this time 'round, "THE FIRE".......there ain't NO stoppin' the people when they're fed up with politicians ands politics....it already happended once in America's history....IT CAN SURELY HAPPEN AGAIN (aka American Revolution)...it's time to wake up the Sons & Daughters again and wipe out ONCE and for all the OBNOXIOUS Ramone-like, pro-CIA policy...and it WILL happen, be sure :):):)!!!!

 

The Ramones are as quintessentially American as the Beach Boys, with all of the contradictions, glories and irregularities that go along with that distinction.

Glenn Armstrong said:

I knew if I mentioned the top ten Republican list we would get some spirited discussion! But there is also the flip side of the liberal Joey Ramone and the later "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" controversy that almost caused Johnny to quit the band. The Ramones are as quintessentially American as the Beach Boys, with all of the contradictions, glories and irregularities that go along with that distinction.
sleazy said:

I wonder if it reveals the band's connections with the fuckin' CIA....I dig their music, but I HATE THEIR GUTS for being pro -Con:):):)!!!

And it's exactly this OBNOXIOUIS contadiction that many have woken up to and are getting ready to WIPE out....luckily I say....if you haven't noticed yet, there are people ready to pick up whatever they can find in the streets and smash up everything. Seattle was the 2nd indication....and NO, no worries, this time 'round, "THE FIRE".......there ain't NO stoppin' the people when they're fed up with politicians ands politics....it already happended once in America's history....IT CAN SURELY HAPPEN AGAIN (aka American Revolution)...it's time to wake up the Sons & Daughters again and wipe out ONCE and for all the OBNOXIOUS Ramone-like, pro-CIA policy...and it WILL happen, be sure :):):)!!!!

 

The Ramones are as quintessentially American as the Beach Boys, with all of the contradictions, glories and irregularities that go along with that distinction.

Glenn Armstrong said:

I knew if I mentioned the top ten Republican list we would get some spirited discussion! But there is also the flip side of the liberal Joey Ramone and the later "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" controversy that almost caused Johnny to quit the band. The Ramones are as quintessentially American as the Beach Boys, with all of the contradictions, glories and irregularities that go along with that distinction.
sleazy said:

I wonder if it reveals the band's connections with the fuckin' CIA....I dig their music, but I HATE THEIR GUTS for being pro -Con:):):)!!!

I knew if I mentioned the top ten Republican list we would get some spirited discussion! But there is also the flip side of the liberal Joey Ramone and the later "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" controversy that almost caused Johnny to quit the band. The Ramones are as quintessentially American as the Beach Boys, with all of the contradictions, glories and irregularities that go along with that distinction.
sleazy said:

I wonder if it reveals the band's connections with the fuckin' CIA....I dig their music, but I HATE THEIR GUTS for being pro -Con:):):)!!!

I wonder if it reveals the band's connections with the fuckin' CIA....I dig their music, but I HATE THEIR GUTS for being pro -Con:):):)!!!

Seeds (1st album) !

The closest thing to an all girl Black Flag was probably Bikini Kill

OH , SHIT ! I almost forgot that was next weekend . I know , how could I ?   I think of ways , usually. It should'nt really affect the shows at The Empty Bottle. It's far enough away from Downtown.

LOOKING AT THIS RIDICULOUSLY LATE , BUT , THIS LOOKS LIKE A STUDIO COPY , SHOT AT A DIFFERENT ANGLE THAN THE BETTER - KNOWN "WHERE THE ACTION IS" CLIP. BETTER QUALITY , TOO.     And , this is SO badass.

IF ANYONE'S STILL READING THIS......I JUST GOT THE WORD THAT THE ELECTRIC PRUNES HAVE DECIDED TO STAY TOGETHER. AFTER BASSIST , MARK TULIN , PASSED AWAY , THE BAND , UNDERSTANDABLY , LAY LOW , AND DID'NT ANNOUNCE THEIR FUTURE PLANS.

PLANS ARE NOW UNDERWAY TO BEGIN PERFORMING AGAIN , AND , HOPEFULLY , TO RETURN TO THE STUDIO. THEY'VE DONE THREE CDS SINCE REFORMING , AND EACH ONE MAKES AN ASS OUT OF THE MAJORITY OF CONTEMPORARY GARAGE/PSYCH RELEASES.

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Thought of another one: Samsonite Gorillas

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