I think it's funny they refer to Handsome Dick as "Richard" in that article. Next time I'm in Manhattan, I'll go to Manitoba's where the real action is.
May 8, 2012 3:24 PM CDT
I think it's funny they refer to Handsome Dick as "Richard" in that article. Next time I'm in Manhattan, I'll go to Manitoba's where the real action is.
May 8, 2012 3:20 PM CDT
It sounds a bit negative but “We’re never going to recreate that moment in time,” says it all in my opinion. I can't say I've ever been there but New York gentrification isn't unique. It's in London, Hamburg and Berlin among plenty of other places.Once it's gone it's not coming back. But that doesn't mean the same spirit can't happen but why try and resurrect something that died of natural causes?
May 8, 2012 7:56 AM CDT
Here's something that may interest a few people here...
CBGB Is Dead. Long Live CBGB.
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr. and STEPHEN REX BROWN
For the last six years the name CBGB has been little more than a logo on T-shirts for young people in the East Village. Now a group of investors has bought the assets of that famous punk-rock club, which closed in 2006, and plans to establish an ambitious music festival this summer, with an eye toward reopening the club at a new downtown location.
The new owners of the club’s assets — some with ties to the original Bowery establishment — say they hope that the festival will revive the wide-open artistic aesthetic associated with CBGB, which in its heyday served as an incubator for influential acts like Television, the Talking Heads, the Ramones, Blondie, Sonic Youth and Patti Smith.
“We’re never going to recreate that moment in time,” said Tim Hayes, one of the investors. “We’re trying to continue the idea of supporting live music, making a lot of noise and being a part of New York City. The festival is one way we can do it. Eventually the club will be another way we can do it.”
The four-day festival is scheduled to begin on July 5 and will showcase about 300 rock bands. Concerts will take place at around 30 places, from large stages like Central Park Summerstage and Webster Hall to small clubs like the Trash Bar in Williamsburg and the
Living Room on the Lower East Side.
The Cro-Mags, Vision of Disorder and Sick of It All will headline a hardcore show at Webster Hall, organizers said. The festival will also stage a free concert in Central Park with Guided by Voices, the Pains of Being Pure at Heart and Cloud Nothings. A few veteran rockers have agreed to appear: David Johansen, a former member of the New York Dolls, has committed to do a show, as has the Baseball Project, the supergroup formed by Peter Buck of R.E.M. and Steve Wynn of Dream Syndicate.
The New York City market has proved difficult for festival promoters, particularly for large, open-air events, like All Points West and Across the Narrows. The CBGB festival, however, will take place mostly inside existing bars and music halls, a more profitable model in the city. Though Mr. Hayes declined to discuss the company’s finances, he said the promoters bought the club’s assets for cash and are not burdened with debt.
The festival will also include screenings of rock-themed films at two downtown cinemas and a series of workshops and conferences geared to artists venturing into the music business for the first time. Mr. Hayes said the models are the South by Southwest music festival in Austin, Tex., and the CMJ festival held here every fall. “We want to make room for some of the legends that came from CBGB, but the primary focus is to support new music,” he said.
It was Mr. Hayes’s commitment to original music that persuaded Lisa Kristal Burgman, who controlled the estate that owned the rights to the club, to sell it to him, she said. “It’s a relief to know that it’s not going to die,” Ms. Burgman said. “It’s going to be reborn.”
That rebirth has been a long time coming. Hilly Kristal, the club’s founder and Ms. Burgman’s father, died of cancer in August 2007. A year earlier, he had shut down the narrow space — a crumbling bar with an angled stage, dungeonlike bathrooms and walls covered in graffiti and fliers — after a long and bitter dispute over back rent with the landlord. He left most of his estate to Ms. Burgman.
But the rights to the club’s assets and its famous trademark, which is worth millions, became mired in legal disputes after Mr. Kristal’s death. Shortly before he died, Mr. Kristal had negotiated a deal to sell the club’s assets to two entrepreneurs, James Blueweiss and Robert Williams. They bought the rights from his estate in May 2008 but then declared bankruptcy two years later. Under Ms. Burgman’s direction, the estate sued to reclaim the club’s assets. Complicating matters, Mr. Kristal’s former wife, Karen Kristal, also filed suit, disputing the sale, saying she had been the rightful owner of the business.
By October 2010, both legal battles had been settled, and Ms. Burgman ended up in control of not only the club’s famous logo, but also its memorabilia and its grubby interior furnishings. Several would-be buyers approached her, she said.
She started talking to Mr. Hayes, a concert promoter, about his interest in reviving the club in early 2011. Her main concern, she said, was to ensure that Mr. Hayes and his partners would carry on her father’s policy of supporting original, undiscovered musicians.
“What was important was to make sure that whoever bought it understood what CBGB was about, and Tim did from the get-go,” Ms. Burgman said.
Neither Mr. Hayes nor Ms. Burgman would reveal the terms of the sale. But buying CBGB — and the cultural cachet, lucrative licensing rights and merchandise that come with it — was almost certainly not cheap. When the Kristal estate sold the rights to the club in May 2008, the price was $3.5 million, according to bankruptcy records.
Mr. Hayes said there were at least six investors behind the new venture, whom he declined to name but described as “a half dozen guys that just love music.” One of them is Joe D’Urso, a musician and a former talent agent who is now working to organize the festival. Ms. Burgman said she had no financial stake in the festival, nor in the future club, though she is continuing to advise the new owners. “It’s passing the baton,” she said.
Mr. Hayes has hired others with close ties to Mr. Kristal. Louise Parnassa-Staley, the booker at the club from 1986 until its closing, has the same responsibilities for the coming festival. She said she had received inquiries from a wide variety of rock groups, from a black-metal band in Norway to a heavy-metal band in Mexico and a “surprising amount” of roots-rock bands.
Eventually, Mr. Hayes said, he and his partners intend to reopen the club in Lower Manhattan and are searching for an ideal building to buy. “We don’t want to be a tenant,” he said. “We don’t want to be a victim of what happened before.”
Some people with ties to the old CBGB expressed skepticism the club could be resurrected without Mr. Kristal. “The people who bought it are wonderful people, but to me, the place died with the man,” said Richard Manitoba, the lead singer of the Dictators.
James Sliman, who managed the Dead Boys in the 1970s, said he was waiting to see if the new owners had Mr. Kristal’s “musical integrity” or were “doing this just to cash in on the name.”
The new club, if and when it opens, will have most of the trappings of the shuttered club at its disposal: A theatrical company dismantled and itemized everything from the bar itself to set lists and put it all in storage in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
But Mr. Hayes and Mr. D’Urso said they did not want to open a “museum installation” aimed at tourists. They hope to re-establish CBGB as a vibrant downtown club that will present original bands.
“Rock is an art form that I love and respect, and I think has a purpose in the social fabric of our society,” Mr. D’Urso said. “And it’s been a little pushed aside. If we can help push it back in, we’d like to.”
May 8, 2012 3:20 PM CDT
Hi Josephine,
I visit Norwich quite often, be great to go Cave In. My friends (the despondents)have played with Beast with a Gun. I DJ and play quite often at a monthly Garage night in Leeds called Bloodstains with my band The Sultones. There was a band recently from Norwich called Duke and his all drunk Orchestra (I think) Kinda like the Dead Brothers/Tom Waits etc. What are you're band called? if you ever want a gig Leeds way, let us know, cheers Pete.
sonicmama said:
Hi Peter, I live in Cromer now, was born in Norwich. Yeah my boyfriend's friends used to do Thee Coffin Club! There isn't a lot but another friend runs Cave In which is a monthly pysch, beat, r'n'b etc night which is a bit of a hidden treasure! The Norwich garage scene is rubbish but we are hoping to do a small gig at Olives in july for my birthday and get the Higher State to play with a local band called Beast with a Gun, so keep your eyes peeled!
May 8, 2012 6:08 AM CDT
Hey Bazza. Winston Texas over in Cumbria here (50 this year). Good idea this post, you might want to check out this thread as it made me smile.
http://garagepunk.ning.com/forum/topics/how-often-do-you-meet-people-in-person-with-your-music-taste .
I haven't met one person round these parts who like this music who has even heard of surf except bizarrely an old lady in Lancaster who loved gogo dancing in the early 60's
I'm writing my own stuff under the AGENT TWANG!! name you'll find some of my tunes on my page. Been trying to put together a band for the last year without success but won't give up. Great that you have like-minded players to work with & looking forward to checking out your links. Cheers.
May 7, 2012 10:12 AM CDT
Hi Peter, I live in Cromer now, was born in Norwich. Yeah my boyfriend's friends used to do Thee Coffin Club! There isn't a lot but another friend runs Cave In which is a monthly pysch, beat, r'n'b etc night which is a bit of a hidden treasure! The Norwich garage scene is rubbish but we are hoping to do a small gig at Olives in july for my birthday and get the Higher State to play with a local band called Beast with a Gun, so keep your eyes peeled!
May 8, 2012 2:20 PM CDT
I picked up the JEFF the Brotherhood Live at United 12" which is pretty pysched-out and fuzzy. I also snagged the Pujol "Reverse Vampire" 7" which is really awesome and has a sweet B-side called "Psychic Pain".
May 7, 2012 7:02 PM CDT
I agree. But it won't stop gouging , later on , from corrupt individuals. I heard one theif , I mean , merchant , charged $125 for a RSD 45 , after the fact. Enough people jumped in his shit about it. But , it goes without saying , these overpriced items may be rarities to people who never go to record stores , but , labels like Sundazed , much as I like 'em , definitely failed. For $12 a 45 , they could have offered more material that is'nt readily available . But , it was'nt just them. They were just one of the only labels I had any interest in.
You're better served ,in my humble opinion , supporting the smaller stores who are'nt selling "The vinyls" exclusive to RSD , just offering substantial bargains on their own stock.
May 8, 2012 12:46 PM CDT
Tobacco A-Go-Go, a 3 volume Nuggets-like series of extinct garage and psych from NC in the 1960s compiled by Ken Friedman, is a great source for some really obscure vintage lo-fi rock.
That's where we found "Cool One", an especially aggressive tune by Winston Salem's Sounds Unlimited. We liked it so much we covered it: http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com/track/cool-one
-Andras
THEE DIRTYBEATS - maximum vintage garage
http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com
May 8, 2012 11:18 AM CDT
Check out our memphis Episode with Scott Bomar:
We discuss Memphis, Ponderosa Stomp, Goner Fest
If you Like it check out our other episodes Here.
May 8, 2012 7:56 AM CDT
It's beautiful.
May 8, 2012 7:33 AM CDT
Never! No-one ever even has a clue what I'm talking about. From what I can figure on this & other sites (I'm on Surf 101 too) within a radius of about 100 miles there are maybe 4 people. We should form a band right?! Or, is it because I'm so socially dysfunctional that I'd never find out who likes the same stuff anyway? Guess we'll never know... ;-) What is kind of nice is that it's a bit like Jagger meeting Richards because one of them had a blues album under his arm, like a secret code. This Saturday I'm meeting a guy who lives 80 miles away halfway for a drink because we both wanted to hang with someone who likes the same music for once. Awww! Someone call my wife if I'm not back in 3 hours...
May 8, 2012 6:27 AM CDT
Do any of you musos know of really good spring reverb software plug-ins? Anything that comes even close to the real Fender Reverb Tank with the drip. I know that nothing can but just wondering if I could improve the fidelity of my guitar recordings by adding it in the mix in stereo rather than recording the pedal rev from the cabinet with a mic. Cheers. Winston.
May 8, 2012 6:18 AM CDT
PS. I sometimes sit in with the great house band in a bar a few miles away. The bass player is 60, the guitar player 64 & the drummer 72. Admittedly the drummer's getting a little shaky(!) but the kids in the bar couldn't give a damn & have a ball.
May 8, 2012 6:15 AM CDT
Hey Matt. You might be surprised by the age of some of the members I'm 50 this year & garage/surf is a passion I developed in the last 5 years, I can't get enough, listening to podcasts on this site feels like it did listening to Beefheart & Roky Erikkson as a 14 year old with my pal who is 54 & still my pal. We msg & fileshare 2 or 3 times a week all obsessively about music! I'd do dumb dad-dancing if I could too but my knees can't take it any more!
May 8, 2012 2:36 AM CDT
Wish I could make that. I just saw The Calamity Cubes in Austin. The Dirt Daubers and Legendary Shack Shakers are coming here to Santa Fe next month. (All those are on my new Big Enchilada podcast) Wayne the Train and Dale Watson both are full-blooded honky tonkers. And I love Rachel Brooke too!
(IS T-Model Ford supposed to be there? I saw him about 15 years ago at a private BBQ -- he played til the cops made him stop!) He's bound to be pushing 85 now)
May 7, 2012 9:54 PM CDT
The new episode is up and ready for your ears and hearts.
Give a listen as I tell you what the following songs have to do with Peter Bagge's infamous comic series HATE.
A Simple Gesture - J Church
Hate Your Friends -
The Lemonheads
Tarpit -Dinosaur Jr.
Beergasm -The Karl Hendricks Rock Band
Slack Motherfucker -Superchunk
They Don't Care -Fastbacks
Stumblin' Man -Tad
If I Think -Mudhoney
Feels Blind -Bikini Kill
One Out of Four -Seaweed
Be Nicer To Me -Can You Imagine?
I Can't Control Myself -The Troggs
Lil' Red Riding Hood -John Felice
Can't Stand It -The Greenhornes
Muck 'n' Bullets -The Mobbs
New Resolution -Heartless Bastards
California Sun -The Ramones
No Correspondence -The Beckett Quintet
Mine All Mine -The Beat Rats
Love Is All Around (The Troggs Cover) -Mooseheart Faith
Ain't like you -The Primates
May 7, 2012 6:52 PM CDT
...A total of 21 bands that I don't know , but , I guess that means little. I'll be at the show , Sunday , May 20 , when Roky plays .
John Battles said:
ROKY MUTHAFUCKIN' ERICKSON !!!!
Also Redd Kross , Human Eye , White Mystery , and some bands I don't know.
May 7, 2012 6:32 PM CDT
ROKY MUTHAFUCKIN' ERICKSON !!!!
Also Redd Kross , Human Eye , White Mystery , and some bands I don't know.
May 7, 2012 3:00 PM CDT
Who's playing?
May 7, 2012 2:40 PM CDT
I lucked out and got some cheap airfare to Chicago, it just happened to coincide with Chicago Blackout Fest 2012! It will be my first time going to Chicago, was curious to see if there will be any GPH members in attendance?
May 7, 2012 1:53 PM CDT
The rock n roll madness carried on when neighbours complained and the police were called. I once read Kerrang's list of crazy rock n roll stunts. It included the 2003 Darkness act at Reading Festival when the singer got everyone to stick their thumbs up instead of their middle fingers. I despair with them.
The Pulsebeats said:
This is amazing stuff.
You've gotta love how the mainstream music press is completely unaware of where any sort of pulse is. The NME's reaction is, "They put a gig on in their house! Who puts a gig on in their house?! Crazy!"
Bring on more Ikea gigs. Love it.
May 7, 2012 11:51 AM CDT
John Waters and Jim Jarmusch are the coolest when it comes to rock n roll appearances.
May 7, 2012 11:04 AM CDT
May 7, 2012 9:58 AM CDT