very nice. so the thing is is is it something that must be caught at that moment or stuck at that moment? you are not neophytes forever. maybe it can only be true at that point. so as soon as you learn keith's open tuning tricks you no longer qualify.

Gunther Toody said:

"I don't know about garage but I know what I like,

surfin' in the swamp on a saturday night."

Paraphrased from Lux Interior.

Garage is a bunch of musical neophyte nerds doing their best to sound like the Stones or the Kinks or the Yardbirds (or fill in the blanks with any band that gets poonanny, which is the biggest motivator to start a band) but not quite getting there, yet the result is honest and full of piss, energy and vitriol.

 

"I don't know about garage but I know what I like,

surfin' in the swamp on a saturday night."

Paraphrased from Lux Interior.

Garage is a bunch of musical neophyte nerds doing their best to sound like the Stones or the Kinks or the Yardbirds (or fill in the blanks with any band that gets poonanny, which is the biggest motivator to start a band) but not quite getting there, yet the result is honest and full of piss, energy and vitriol.

imhos are what we are curious about. not looking for "official" definitions. your feeling that it is a bag of cats is close to how we think about it. not criticizing but finding it interesting that you are using "garage-rock flair" to describe garage music.

David John de Horton said:

Garage takes ques from all facets of music, from Rock, Blues, Punk, Soul, to Jazz, and ties it together in a dirty, nasty, raw mass of sonic nuts and bolts making a delicious blues-funk stew lightly seasoned with garage-rock flair and dirty, fuzzed-up grooves -IMHO

what we're looking for is what you gave us. people's personal thoughts. you say raw primal rock and roll. that to us is little richard. should we consider little richard to be garage?

kopper said:

To me, it's just, raw, primal rock'n'roll. But I don't really like to try and "define" a style of music (I think it's one of those things where you know when you hear it). But if you're really looking for definitions, Wikipedia is a pretty good place to start, but check both garage rock and garage punk there.

And remember, talking about music is like dancing about architecture. You want perfect examples of garage? Listen to our podcasts, or the Hideout Comps! You'll hear all sorts of music that falls under the "garage" umbrella.

To me, it's just, raw, primal rock'n'roll. But I don't really like to try and "define" a style of music (I think it's one of those things where you know when you hear it). But if you're really looking for definitions, Wikipedia is a pretty good place to start, but check both garage rock and garage punk there.

And remember, talking about music is like dancing about architecture. You want perfect examples of garage? Listen to our podcasts, or the Hideout Comps! You'll hear all sorts of music that falls under the "garage" umbrella.

Garage takes ques from all facets of music, from Rock, Blues, Punk, Soul, to Jazz, and ties it together in a dirty, nasty, raw mass of sonic nuts and bolts making a delicious blues-funk stew lightly seasoned with garage-rock flair and dirty, fuzzed-up grooves -IMHO

is it just a style and if so how would you simply define that style? is it also a state or situation? can a band with a major label or major indie label contract and support be garage? just how fuzzy is the fuzz sound?

When I was in Europe every band I heard or saw that used "garage" (or "rockabilly" or "surf" for that matter) to promote themselves were not "garage" at all but more like punk. I figured out that it was these johnny-come-latelys way of saying they liked "garage" but were actually allowing to stay connected to bands they used to listen to like Bauhaus and shit like that (since that's what they sounded like to me). So in that sense, yes, it is trendy.

Most bands that call themselves "garage" nowadays sound like they learned the term from listening to the Cramps 20 years too late.

Kopper nailed it with his comment anyway...

I've lost all touch with when garage rock goes in and out of style. We have plenty of folks up here who play in bands and claim to love "garage rock", but I still can't find a friggin guitarist who wants to play it and 99% of their bands sure 'aint playing garage.

I Love these guys.

Lucky1 said:

The Moon-Rays - self-proclaimed halloween band and spot-on spooky!

I was born in October and it is my favorite month and Halloween, holiday, and love how it can tie into 60s garage.  Very stoked to see the Halloween Podcast recommendations next, but wanted to check back on this string.  Was surprised to see that The Moon-Rays arent on this list. 

 

you can check out samples here...

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/moonrays/from/growthhouse

 

The Other

Hahahah, too good!
Nervous Norvus,  man yes!

Marty Shane, Pacifiction Records said:

I was gonna post a vid of The Fang by Nervous Norvus... and then I stumbled on this!

In addition to "Fire", I think "Nightmare", "The Great Spontaneous Apple Creation", "I Put A Spell On You" and especially "Rest Cure" are his best tunes. I've always wondered if anyone ever sampled the bassline from "Rest Cure"...maybe Madlib?

Got a live radio show on KGRG fm Auburn and Real Punk Radio airs 7pm to 10pm PST, right in between Seattle and Tacoma. The show plays nothing but psychotronic rock and roll: The first hour is the 'billy, second is usually garage punk the third is something like surf and 60's garage. The live feed is in HD, but there are lo-fi, mono recordings at www.zorchradio.com.

I just uploaded episode 70 over the weekend, which featured two hours of local music and then a re-broadcast of Gone Mental. We also replay oldies of RadiOblivion once a month. Cuz it's rad.

This week, some people that are calling in: Bill from Season of Nightmares, Danny from The Tomorrow Men, and local burlesque/model Aly Hellcat.

I'm always down for working with bands, other DJ's, promoters etc. Just hit me up. It's all non-profit, non-commercial. No money involved. Cheers.

I love everything Niagara does :):):)

Yep, saw that hardcore doc...

Do you have the book Treat Me Like Dirt by Liz Worth? It's on Bongobeat records and details the whole scene via interviews. Lots on The Viletones, Teenage Head, Diodes, etc...Oh, and Diodes here in London Nov 18 or 19 at Call The Office...4 original members. You should be able to get the book that night.

Also coming out soon, the doc about the last punk show at The Horseshoe in Toronto, The Last Pogo....sometime soon, just signed some forms for a picture of mine that will be used in the doc...

It would be great to see a feature length doc.  Have you seen the documentary on TVO about the Toronto hardcore scene from the late 90's maybe?  It's kinda like a "what are they doing now" kinda thing, featuring members of Direct Action, Bunchafuckingoofs, and a couple others.  There seems to be lots of micro-docs, often done for TV. 

Just saw No Alternative, Lewd, d'Jelly Brains and The Naked Lady Wrestlers @Eli's in Oakland, CA last Sat. Great wayback machine trip!

on Friday : The Monsters / King Automatic / Urban Junior

thuesday 3 nov : Guitar Wolf

saturday 5 nov : The Kids

nice

It's the Back from the Grave Halloween Ball that goes on every year in Tokyo. There are a ton of Japanese garage bands like Guitar Wolf, Jet Boys, The Go Devils, Jackie & the Cedrics and like 30 more... for 2 nites, first show is an all-niter. They usually have a special guest from overseas and this year it's the Rip Offs.

John Battles said:

Yeah , including Roy Loney and The Longshots and The Legendary Stardust Cowboy ! Or , no , waitaminnit that's the Ripoff Records show , is'nt it?

P.S. -THE CYNICS , NOV. 3 , BOTTOM LOUNGE , CHICAGO. Your only excuse is that you live 100 miles away , or more.

Marty Shane, Pacifiction Records said:

The Rip Offs are playing with a slew of Japanese garage bands this weekend at the Back from the Grave Halloween Ball!

Haha, yeah it counts for sure!

Those Chicago shows sound like not to miss, too bad for all the crap inbetween me and Chicago that hinders me from getting there.

"Twinkle Toes" is already bad ass and would make a great catchy Punk number!

John Battles said:

...Does self - promotion enter into it ? Bloodshot Bill and I have performed together twice as Bloodshot Battles Overdrive , and we did "Tongue - Tied Jill" once. We've talked , casually , about doing a show together again , now that La Migra is off his ass. Unfortunately , I'll be out of town when he plays his first show in Chicago in 5 years , with NoBunny , Tandoori Knights (Bloodshot Bill and King Khan , Ragabilly , Ragabilly ,  Rockabolly Boogie! ) and Bloodshot Bill , solo. But if YOU'RE in town , it's at The Bottom Lounge (I forget the date.).

Of course , real obvious Orbison covers include "Claudette" by The Everly Bros. , and they each did "Love Hurts". I defy any Garage band to cover "Twinkle Toes", BTW.

Thanks!

Mina said:

Velvet Underground, can't come up with the song.

Yeah, it's cool how some song become standards with whole scenes or a couple of bands from a certain time.

Reminds me of how Leaving Here keeps popping up, every now and then.

Though it can get on your nerve somehow, if every other record comes with the same cover version as an extra.


The Raw Cuts said:

Cavan also did 'One Hand Loose'. It's on their 'The Way It Was' album with early demos etc.

So did the 13 Cats...and Flying Saucers...and I bet a million other Teddyboy and Rockabilly bands.

 

Haha, hey, I think in that timeline as well!

Although I still see some movies now and then, my last stop in the present was when Wild Zero, Electric Dragon and Sore Losers came out in the 90's.

Thanks for all the titles you came up with and will come up with no doubt ;) Oh, I have to hear that version of Chicken Hearted + the '68 Comeback also sounds great, everything does indeed.

And how the hell did I not point out the Charlie Feathers blood Bloodshot Bill and the Cramps have in their veins?? Well, I kind of did, but maybe not enough.

John Battles said:

IDON MINE , You have to understand (Well , know , you don't HAVE to , ha ha...) , my idea of "Current" means , in the last 30 years or so....I told someone today , I only see a few current movies a year , mainly cos so few of them look like they're worth it !

 

But , The Cramps were heavily influenced by Charlie Feathers , arguably moreso than Orbison.

They covered "I Can't Hardly Stand It" , "It's Just That Song" , and their version of "Tear It Up" was based of Feathers' arrangement , so that's sort of a Feathers cover....They probably did some others that were never released , or that they only did once or twice , live.

Hmmm...who else , The Stray Cats (No , I don't like 'em no more.) did "One Hand Loose".

Bloodshot Bill did some of Charlie Feathers' songs. I forget , now , because practiaclly all his stuff sounds like Charlie Feathers. I think '68 Comeback did "Uh - Huh Honey" and maybe "Tongue - Tied Jill" , but , I'd have to double check...

The Gibson Bros. did "Chicken Hearted" , Creedence Clearwater Revival did "Ooby Dooby" , The Blasters did "Go! Go! Go!" , Rev. Horton Heat and Los Straitjackets did "Move on Down The Line " (Jerry Lee's version of the same song.)......There are others , I'm justdrawing a blank. I'll think about it , though.

Haha, they got the look down!

The Raw Cuts said:

some awesome Orbison cover from Finland...