Yeah, anybody can, but they have hordes of no-no volunteers whose hobby is finding articles to recommend for deletion.

James Porter said:

Hell, I didn't even know it took much to get on Wikipedia in the first place. Can't anybody just write anything? Most Wiki articles I see have some outlandishly wrong factoid in the first place!

Hell, I didn't even know it took much to get on Wikipedia in the first place. Can't anybody just write anything? Most Wiki articles I see have some outlandishly wrong factoid in the first place!

Definitely better. As the saying goes, "Don't ever grow up. It's a trap." Shouldn't you be in a band to have fun in the first place?

SMF said:

Here's who cares about my band:

Me

Otto

Dave

Andy 

We ARE the band...

That's all that matters!

We are back in the recording studio next month. Who cares about that? See above.

This is certainly better than growing up...

You're right, and this was also true for when we added the GaragePunk Hideout to Wikipedia (here's the link), which will probably end up getting deleted because it lacks notability. There just aren't enough news sites out there "reporting" on websites like ours! I guess it doesn't matter that we have 7,500 members or over 12,000 likes on Facebook... if you don't have a proper press article that explains the site with "verifiable facts" then you're screwed. So it's lacking verified citations, but what can you do? You can't write those articles yourself, and most "journalists" (and I use that term VERY loosely these days) rarely ever care about a site like this to even bother with visiting it, let alone spend any time here to get the general vibe or learn more about the Hideout Comps, GPPR, etc. I think there's just too much gray area around "press articles" vs. blog posts. What should make one a proper citation and the other not?

G. Wood said:

I was asked to write a Wikipedia page for my friend's band. After reading the requirements detailing who qualifies for a page that won't be deleted, I questioned whether my friend qualifies, even though she's released 3 albums for actual labels, has tons of press, and plays regularly from LA to NY. 

It's not easy to write a proper Wiki article. It needs to have verified citations from press articles (not online blogs), and be composed of verifiable facts. It's very different from just dashing off a promo bio full of adjectives. Which is why I never finished it.

But yeah, it's true. No one cares about my garage band. I have maybe 25 fans worldwide, and half of them are musicians, who are on the last album. I don't have a band, I have a circle of friends.

My mum was a massive Glam fan, heard a lot of it as a kid. The Sweet are still a band I can listen to at almost any given time.

Wow , I was just barely making over $3 from my crap job when "Some Girls" was the most recent Rolling Stones album , so I barely had any money for records. With younger people , the 60's were still a singles market , kids who were too young to work , but could scrounge the 60 cents for a single by not drinking milk for a week or something .

In many cases  people probably were just as happy with a couple of singles than an iffy LP.....But , The Stones, who were putting out albums about every four months from 64 - 66 , more or less , were usually very consistent. Then , of course , Sgt. Pepper came out , and ALBUM ROCK was born..... Radio stations started playing long tracks and non - single cuts , but the Hot 100 kept chugging along. I'll still take "Their Satanic Majesties".
 
G. Wood said:

Not so sure about that...I remember albums were $3, less on sale. That was about an hour's pay for your average crappy job, just like the cost of a CD or album DL is about an hour's pay for the same crappy job today. More or less. Singles were something like 60 cents. So I don't really think that was it. The filler, yeah, maybe. But I think it was a holdover from 78s, which had been the standard for decades. Plus, radio was a strong factor, they played the hits, that's what the singles were.

David Kitching said:

The reason singles were so important in the sixties was that LP's were so expensive. Another reason was the already mentioed filler tracks, I'd hear people saying how they'd bought an LP and there was a load of boring crap on it. And they wouldn't buy anything else by them.

You really should. ALL those albums are essential.

MikeL said:

I understand your point.  I myself get tired of hearing "Happy" and "Tumbling Dice."  However, there are some overlooked gems on the albums I just mentioned, such as "Stray Cat Blues" from "Beggars' Banquet," "Live With Me" from "Let It Bleed" and "Soul Survivor" from "Exile."

 

As far as their early stuff goes, I only have "England's Newest Hitmakers" and "12x5."  I might be getting "Aftermath" and "Their Satanic Majesties Request" in the near future.

joey fuckup said:

This has always been a debate that I would have with other Stones fans...Everybody I know considers "Exile" to be the best album in their whole discography, which I'm not disagreeing at all on that. For me personally, I'll take "pre-1970" Stones anyday. I have nothing against '70's era Stones music, but it's so overplayed, especially on most any rock station (it definately is here). The '60's era Stones gets so overlooked nowadays, with only a huge hit, like say "Satisfaction" getting airplay on said radio stations. And whatever oldies stations that even do exist anymore, choose to overlook many of their gems that us garageheads really dig. So overexposure of their catalogue has definately influenced my tastes on such a great band, however, being that I love '60's garage rock 'n' roll, I find their "1st Wave" to be more of a fit for me...

you know the more I hear the boots from the 70's with Mick Taylor, the more I tend to like his era best.  His guitar work was some of the best guitar work in a Rock and Roll band, ever, In my opinion.  He even made Keith step up his game during this period.  It is hard to rule out the Brian Jones years, which I am not.  I also dig some of Bigger Bang too.  The interplay between Ron and Keith is amazing too.  Those weaves of sound they creat live are incredible.  So, I guess if I had to choose one era, it would be the Mick Taylor years.  I am hoping for a reunion with Taylor for the 50 anniversary.  

  I was not a big fan of Post "Beggar's Banquet" Stones for years. Not like I thought it was bad, but , I had it coming out of my ears , some 20 - odd years ago. I've always been a huge fan of the Brian Jones - era Stones , but , now , I'm a fan of all those albums you mention .....

All great records , no denying. But , I like the more unlikely  stuff , too....I really like "Their Satanic Majesties Request" and "Between The Buttons". I even like "Metamorphosis" , though that's not really an "Album". If you go over their back catalogue with a fine toothed comb (And scour the better bootlegs.) , you'll find great songs that most 'Fans" won't recognize  , and tribute bands would'nt touch , even if The Stones themselves  might slip them into their show. But , yes , this was a great creative period , and let's not forget "Get Your Ya Ya's Out".

Gotta Agree with MM and JF....

michael mcconnell said:

joey f could not have said it any better
 
MikeL said:

I understand your point.  I myself get tired of hearing "Happy" and "Tumbling Dice."  However, there are some overlooked gems on the albums I just mentioned, such as "Stray Cat Blues" from "Beggars' Banquet," "Live With Me" from "Let It Bleed" and "Soul Survivor" from "Exile."

 

As far as their early stuff goes, I only have "England's Newest Hitmakers" and "12x5."  I might be getting "Aftermath" and "Their Satanic Majesties Request" in the near future.

joey fuckup said:

This has always been a debate that I would have with other Stones fans...Everybody I know considers "Exile" to be the best album in their whole discography, which I'm not disagreeing at all on that. For me personally, I'll take "pre-1970" Stones anyday. I have nothing against '70's era Stones music, but it's so overplayed, especially on most any rock station (it definately is here). The '60's era Stones gets so overlooked nowadays, with only a huge hit, like say "Satisfaction" getting airplay on said radio stations. And whatever oldies stations that even do exist anymore, choose to overlook many of their gems that us garageheads really dig. So overexposure of their catalogue has definately influenced my tastes on such a great band, however, being that I love '60's garage rock 'n' roll, I find their "1st Wave" to be more of a fit for me...

joey f could not have said it any better
 
MikeL said:

I understand your point.  I myself get tired of hearing "Happy" and "Tumbling Dice."  However, there are some overlooked gems on the albums I just mentioned, such as "Stray Cat Blues" from "Beggars' Banquet," "Live With Me" from "Let It Bleed" and "Soul Survivor" from "Exile."

 

As far as their early stuff goes, I only have "England's Newest Hitmakers" and "12x5."  I might be getting "Aftermath" and "Their Satanic Majesties Request" in the near future.

joey fuckup said:

This has always been a debate that I would have with other Stones fans...Everybody I know considers "Exile" to be the best album in their whole discography, which I'm not disagreeing at all on that. For me personally, I'll take "pre-1970" Stones anyday. I have nothing against '70's era Stones music, but it's so overplayed, especially on most any rock station (it definately is here). The '60's era Stones gets so overlooked nowadays, with only a huge hit, like say "Satisfaction" getting airplay on said radio stations. And whatever oldies stations that even do exist anymore, choose to overlook many of their gems that us garageheads really dig. So overexposure of their catalogue has definately influenced my tastes on such a great band, however, being that I love '60's garage rock 'n' roll, I find their "1st Wave" to be more of a fit for me...

yes,yes,yes everybody agrees on exile,yet some girls was the stones response that they were still the nasty,dirty boys of rock&roll,and being in cleveland for the miss you tour.camping in front of the turstiles for 3days assuring my place up front.there are also great bootlegs ,one in mention the chess sessions chicago 66 i believe where you can listen to live back&forth talks between mick&kieth.also a playfull song about andrew oldham eating pussy,getting high and sucking anything that comes his way .

a fan who paid $480 to see the big bang tour in louisville in 04

I like "Sticky Fingers" too:)  "Dead Flowers" is one of my favorite Stones' tunes.

sideshow Barty said:

sticky fingers is being a little overlooked here,cant you hear me knockin and sway are on it ffs,and yeah everyones always goin on about exile being the best record ever made.....probably 'cos it is.

The Bucky Rage... but then I'm a bit biased. Was a massive fan before I stepped in on bass though.

Coyote Men!

Deadbolt, Los Straightjackets, Knuckle Dragger, and there used to be a band here in Phoenix in the early 90's called Mid Evil Knevils that wore Evil Knevil out fits. Their line was "we were these helmets for your protection"

Great news!

YES!

AWESOME I wish they would come somewhere on the west coast to play.

Check out the July 8th Show!
http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20120708-0030-t1341703800.mp3

The Setlist:

"You, I" b/w "Stay With Me" - Rugbys

I hope it comes together and comes out soon.

Let me guess, the other one is by The Spys...Underground/Machine Shop

http://youtu.be/ELPKNb3DNu8

Duke Of Earl said:

Yea, hard not to notice as this is maybe 1 of the only 2 punk records I like to ever come out of here.

Yea, hard not to notice as this is maybe 1 of the only 2 punk records I like to ever come out of here.

the vintage overdrive is the one i was looking at, thanks Johnny.

lots of vendors are selling Joyo stuff on ebay and through amazon.  you can buy them direct from China but i think i'll find a domestic vendor.