has anyone here tried Joyo pedals?  they are amazingly cheap, reviews are mixed but generally positive.  

http://www.joyoaudio.com/en/product/fl_26.html

yeah keep us posted, i am always chasing good distortion.... everyone else makes it seem so easy.

The Mighties said:

I'm still waiting to recieve it by mail...I also have a normal rat pedal but I can't use it well because with my '78 Telecaster I got problems with tones and if I try a distortion like rat without close all my guitar tones, the amplifier starts to whistle without control.

I know that this version of the pedal is a half way between a classic fuzz and a Rat distortion...I will tell you my test in a few days ;-)

Bernh

I'm still waiting to recieve it by mail...I also have a normal rat pedal but I can't use it well because with my '78 Telecaster I got problems with tones and if I try a distortion like rat without close all my guitar tones, the amplifier starts to whistle without control.

I know that this version of the pedal is a half way between a classic fuzz and a Rat distortion...I will tell you my test in a few days ;-)

Bernh

I'm not hip to this pedal.  I do have an old ProCo Rat (which is a great pedal, by the way) that I have had for twenty years or so.  How does the Dirty Rat differ from to regular Rat?

No, tell me about it.

Oh ya....I know 'em. The singer is an attorney now. That's punk rock!

Happy Canada Day Folks!  100% Canadian primitive rock and roll! July 1 Show!

http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20120701-0030-t1341099000.mp3

The setlist:

THE PINECONES OH MY

TEENAGE HEAD LUCY POTATO
PRIDE TIGER THE LUCKY ONES
ANVIL READY TO FIGHT
SIMPLY SAUCER INSTANT PLEASURE
THE ACTION ZONA ROSA
THE GUESS WHO IT'S MY PRIDE
THE CHESHYRES TOO MANY WOMEN
CHECKERLADS BABY SEND FOR ME
DRUMS ALONG THE GARDINER FISH
SNFU CANNIBAL CAFÉ
FUZZ ALDRIN TRAILER PARK
M.G. & THE ESCORTS A SOMEDAY FOOL
YOUNG CANADIANS WHERE ARE YOU
THE GRUESOMES DEMENTIA 13
THE DEARS LE PAUVRE CHANTEUR
TRANSYLVANIA 500 BLOODWISER
MAOW MS. LEFEVRE
YOUNG RIVAL GOT WHAT YOU NEED
THE FIENDS GRAVEDIGGER
LOST PATROL COMANCHE
TERMINAL SUNGLASSES ANTENNA DILEMMA
THE DIODES RED RUBBER BALL
THE VILETONES POSSIBILITIES
THE A-BONES OH CANADA

This week's program had a feature on The Oblivians Soul Food album as well as music from Elk, The Fall, Deja Voodoo, The Gruesomes, Klark Kent, The Mongrols, The Wipers, Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers and more!

Download the podcast here:  http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20120703-1030-...

This week's blog post on The Oblivians Soul Food album:  http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2012/07/soul-food-show-411.html

This week's play list:

1.  Elk – Riverview
2.  The New Strychnines – High Time
3.  Pete Van Dyk & The Secondhand Band – Canadian Boy
4.  Hab – Sedentary Blues
5.  Bloodshot Bill – Right Out The Door
6.  The Almighty Defenders – All My Loving
7.  Deja Voodoo – Private Eye
8.  The Gruesomes – 3 Men 1 Coffin
9.  Testors – Together
10. Klark Kent – Office Girls
11. XTC – Science Friction
12. The Stranglers – (Get A) Grip (On Yourself)
13. Rotten Tropics – New Miserablist
14. Pomegranates – Ezekiel
15. The Fall – Repetition
16. Captain Scarlet & The Mysterons
17. The Mongrols - Plastic Girl
18. The Wipers – Let’s Go Away
19. The Caesars – We Got To Leave
20. Simply Saucer – Dance The Mutation
21. Oblivians – Vietnam War Blues
22. Oblivians – Jim Cole
23. Oblivians – Blew My Cool
24. The Cramps - Good Taste (Live)
25. Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers – Let Go (Demo)
26. Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - Born To Lose (Demo)

2 periods :

Before and After TOO TOUGH TO DIE...

BEFORE : The Best Punk Rock Band ever playing the best Pop songs ever.

AFTER : The Best Band EVER.

Michael Yonkers "microminiature love" 

It's not the latest trend but it kicks HARD !

I'm currently digging the Diamond Rugs, Cheap Time (Wallpaper Music) & Fidlar (Don't Try...EP).  I had never heard of them and they opened for The Hives.  I really liked it!  Very bouncy.  Following in the tradition of old L.A. punk.

At this moment I really like listening to Death Letters. Two young guys, guitar and drums, and they rock! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXXhcqlt-6Q But ask me again tomorrow...

Nice pick!! Chaz
Mike Gallows said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I would go with THE MONKS "Black Monk Time"

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I would go with THE MONKS "Black Monk Time"

Hi Everyone !

I'm a french rock'n'roller relocating to the Pacific Northwest and I want to start Garage bands !

I have tons of ideas ! (check out my links on my page here)

If you wanna roll, please contact me.

Ax

"Touradas Em Madrid " - Carmen Miranda

devil dogs- once around the block

not sure why. I don't have a specific song to listen to on Monday morning, but that was one I wanted to hear recently on a Monday morning, and it worked well.

"Down To You" - Real Kids. Wish I had a copy in High School.

Nice!

Trace Hull said:

If it's raining - Rainy Monday by The Rifles

 

 

I'm the same way, now.  Music in the morning just sounds painful.... for me anyway
 
John Battles said:

....I don't usually listen to music in the morning , anymore , got out of the habit. When I was in High School , I had a little Radio Shack tape player , so I could play music while taking a shower , and not electrocute myself.....My favorite song to start the day was "Strange Boutique" by The Monochrome Set , which I had on a tape of DJ George Gimarc's show. I did'nt know who it was by , and the chorus is not in the title . It took 31 years for me to find a copy. It's still more "Garage" than much of what passes for Garage , today.

Afte rthat , pretty much anything by The RAMONES WOULD BE MY DAY STARTER.

http://youtu.be/qju3FEcKTrw

This is the monday morning song.

It's About Time - The Alarm Clocks!!!

Hey James,

The original run of Maestros (the 3 volt and 3 transistor FZ-1) was from 62-65 where Gibson made roughly about 5000 of them. They didn't sell as Gibson had anticipated until Keef recorded 'satisfaction' with one after which they became highly sought after by guitarists and studios of the time so they then released the updated FZ-1A which runs on a 1.5V power supply and has different transistors (3 x 2N2613 or 2N2614). They made roughly in the region of 35,000 of these. The FZ-1 is therefore harder to find but recognisable by it's lower serial number and 2 x pencil battery holder. Prices for the occasional ones that come up on ebay would be in the region of $650-$1000. FZ-1A boxes (which very many of the garage punk/psyche kids would have used from '65-'68 ish) come up reasonably frequently on ebay and would usually cost around $350-$600 depending on condition. Problem is that so many of these originals have been butchered to 'improve' them as short sustain became a problem for the newer generation of blues rock wailers. As long as they have their original transistors that still function they can be restored to their original glory but if the trannies have been replaced you're in trouble! Originals are a gamble for sure, and even perfectly functioning ones can sound quite different as consistency was not easily acheivable in those days. The early noughties reissues were apparently pretty good but they actually sell for in the region of $170-$250!

A modern day, accurate (original NOS transistors) clone of an FZ-1A that will be both reliable and sound pretty much bang on would be the Creepyfingers 'fuzznugget' which I believe would be in the region of $250, and Jerms builds a frighteningly accurate FZ-1 clone for about $350 or thereabouts (if he agrees to make one!) Of the various clones I have using non-spec transistors I would recommend the Ghost Effects FZ-1 clone which costs approx £120 - it captures the 'feel' of a maestro really well. But for the cheapest cheerfullest yet pretty decent FZ-1A clone then the North Effects Primitive. Only £75 which is honestly as cheap as you'll ever get to come reasonably close to an original.

As far as other fuzzes go to try to acheive the Maestro sound, I suppose something that has a voltage starve, bias or gating type of control will help get in the ballpark of that short sustain grindy buzz, which could be helped along if you can drastically cut bass frequencies. You'd be struggling with a fuzz factory as it often gets too synthy sounding on the gated settings, and most other fuzzes based around other classic circuits (perhaps with the exception of the MkI tonebender...) just aren't really going to get you into the right territory. The MI audio 'neofuzz' has a bias knob that helps get close to the right sort of feel and I'm sure that with a bit of tweaking you may be able to get a rough approximation with many other modern designs (Basic Audio does some pretty cool sounding buzzy fuzzes at a very reasonable price, unfortunately I don't have any of his boxes).

Costs a lot of money to sound this cheap!

How easy are these coveted FZ1 pedals to find?  I know the reissues have been discontinued and the originals are out of my price range.  What currently available pedal gets you close to the Maestro FZ1 or FZ1A?

waveclipper said:

A lot of the Sonics sound was acheived by pushing the amps and red-lining the mixing desk I believe. That Outsiders track (and most of the fuzz sounds on the BFTG series) is almost certainly a Gibson Maestro Fuzz-Tone (probably an FZ-1A), judging both by the sound and the year ('66). The Seeds used a Maestro fuzz-tone. The Mosrite fuzzrite is a really fantastic fuzz but is more along the lines of Dave Allan and the Arrows, the Ventures and of course Iron Butterfly. The Ashbass clone is a pretty good and great value clone but I reckon the Mahoney fuzzrite clone, Jerms, DAM stuff is better, although it will cost more. The Boss FZ-5 maestro patch is to an original maestro as a mobile phone photograph of a Van Gogh is to the original painting, imo. It will give you a flavour of the maestro and the way it changes your approach to playing but has some ugly background digital artefacts, gates absolutely and abrubtly (unlike an original) and has no depth of character to the sound - a 2D rendering of a sculpture perhaps?! As far as FZ-1/FZ-1A clones go, the best I have heard use the original transistors and that would really be Jerms or Creepyfingers. Ghost effects makes a very good FZ-1 clone using non-original transistors and is consequently much cheaper. A Big Muff was really a late 60s/early 70s fuzz after Hendrix convinced the guitarists of the world that they needed loads of wailing sustain and I don't personally feel it will get you anywhere close to the tones you are describing. The best resource regarding the early fuzzboxes that I have found would be the DAM forum, frightening amount of knowledge held within those pages!

Conclusion? Maestro Fuzz-Tone FZ-1A or FZ-1. Good luck with your quest anyways!