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    • July 24, 2012 8:56 AM CDT
    • I'm bumping this thread, as it is relevant to my interests.  Yesterday, I just discovered The Mercies and The Captains, and am on my way to owning merchandise for them.

      I also found THIS GENIUS:  The Shallows?  They're called The Shallows and I found, via googling their LP title, "The World of the Shallows", a link on Amazon where allegedly you could have once purchased mp3s, but they are no longer available.  I NEED TO FIND THIS!!!  Is anyone else familiar with this incredible group?

    • July 24, 2012 8:31 AM CDT
    • Yeah, I went to Keene State College in Keene, NH and was heavy into the garage scene of the early 80's.  There was a great record store in Lowell, Mass that I bought a ton of great stuff from in those days, can't remember the name. Maybe it was RRR Records and Nashua had a great little store for my garage jones, you dig.  Lyres, Prime Movers, Plan 9.Saw about every great show in Boston duing 83-88.  Awesome times!!!!!

      Boston Paul said:

      "old timers"?  Well, aren't you just the cutest little thing!?  Growing up in Boston, Lyres were my favourite band by a wide margin at least 10 years before I heard the phrase "Garage" or "Garage revival".  They were just the best rock'n'roll band in town or any town.  Also loved the Malarians.

    • July 24, 2012 6:48 AM CDT
    • Was a huge Kurt fan and saw them many many times. Saw Smeggys cock more times than I'd like to admit! Gigs were always messy, it started as a spoof of Alien where one of the band 'exploded' and sent entrails everywhere. Sheeps lungs were a favourite apparently as they were very messy! This all progressed to flower and water in various colours and eggs and bags of flour. Then there were the snakebite drinking competitions, firstly a bucketful through a funnel, this progressed to being pumped through, then the 'wheel of misfortune', basically strapped to a wheel and spun, snakebite, spun, cocks out, spun drink, vomit etc. Saw them once where they had the 'flying wires' used in theatres attached to people, snakebite, up, down spin round, repeat until vomit! Then there was the 'slammers' night(to promote the single of the same name) where all but two contestants ended up in hospital, cant remember if there were eight or ten involved but my mate Stef(RIP) was one who didn't end up in hospital! Carrying a 14 stone drunk across London underground was not fun.

      Id seen the advert for the Wigs JB but couldn't get it anywhere, we had quite a good record shop in the town at the time but Media Burn was quite hit and miss as to what you could get.

      I never got the Cramps and psychobilly connection which is what I was trying to say earlier, garage was a word that seemed to get added later on here, people didnt think of it as a garage scene as such, apart from Mike Spenser, who is American anyway. Garage always seemed a more American term to me at the time.

      melissa scott said:

      Well, they got down to their tidy whiteys (not all of 'em) once when I saw them. And after being covered in sweat and flour, it didn't leave a lot to the imagination.

      Hmmm. No whipped cream when I went, but beer, sweat, and flour isn't a really good combination. Glue is the right way to put it. The crowd was mostly male and prone to jumping around and into each other. Good time had by all!

      I give that band an awful lot of credit for putting the FUN into a music scene that took itself way too seriously. Extra points to KK for their insanely good times.



      John Battles said:

       GETTIN' THEIR WEDDING TACKLE OUT  , huh? It's more than most bands will do. A friend of mine , who'll remain nameless , we'll call him "Bill" . He used to go see them and said he came home , once , covered in flour and other crap like whipped cream that was being projected from the floor and the stage, he said it basically turned to glue , and He had to sneak back in the house without Mum and Da seeing the state of his clothes.
       
      melissa scott said:

      *larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...



      John Battles said:

      Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

      I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
       
      Johnny Bean said:

      I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

    • July 23, 2012 9:58 PM CDT
    • Well, they got down to their tidy whiteys (not all of 'em) once when I saw them. And after being covered in sweat and flour, it didn't leave a lot to the imagination.

      Hmmm. No whipped cream when I went, but beer, sweat, and flour isn't a really good combination. Glue is the right way to put it. The crowd was mostly male and prone to jumping around and into each other. Good time had by all!

      I give that band an awful lot of credit for putting the FUN into a music scene that took itself way too seriously. Extra points to KK for their insanely good times.



      John Battles said:

       GETTIN' THEIR WEDDING TACKLE OUT  , huh? It's more than most bands will do. A friend of mine , who'll remain nameless , we'll call him "Bill" . He used to go see them and said he came home , once , covered in flour and other crap like whipped cream that was being projected from the floor and the stage, he said it basically turned to glue , and He had to sneak back in the house without Mum and Da seeing the state of his clothes.
       
      melissa scott said:

      *larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...



      John Battles said:

      Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

      I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
       
      Johnny Bean said:

      I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

    • July 23, 2012 7:06 PM CDT
    •  GETTIN' THEIR WEDDING TACKLE OUT  , huh? It's more than most bands will do. A friend of mine , who'll remain nameless , we'll call him "Bill" . He used to go see them and said he came home , once , covered in flour and other crap like whipped cream that was being projected from the floor and the stage, he said it basically turned to glue , and He had to sneak back in the house without Mum and Da seeing the state of his clothes.
       
      melissa scott said:

      *larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...



      John Battles said:

      Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

      I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
       
      Johnny Bean said:

      I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

    • July 23, 2012 6:27 PM CDT
    • *larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...



      John Battles said:

      Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

      I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
       
      Johnny Bean said:

      I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

    • July 23, 2012 6:19 PM CDT
    • Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

      I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
       
      Johnny Bean said:

      I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

    • July 23, 2012 6:09 PM CDT
    • I think it just depends....Most domestic LPs are still about 8 to 11 dollars , which , of course , is NOTHING in English Pounds. 45s CAN RUN YOU ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 8 dollars , which is LESS than nothing in English Pounds.  A lot of independent labels and stores did try hard to keep the prices down , but , now , it's a crapshoot.  Also , regionally , a lot of new releases may be more expensive , still.

      Yeah , I also have the original Blood on The Cats comp - Everything from Screaming Lord Sutch to America's own Shockabilly (Who had no discernible Rockabilly influence , but , then again , neither does most latter - day "Psychobilly" .). I have The Wigs EP , too. I knew it existed , because it was listed in a Media Burn (?) ad , and I'm a Yank , fer chrissake.
       
      Mark George Harrison said:


      Forgot the Escalators JB, another Meteors offshoot although I remember reading that Nigel Lewis was on a lot of high dosage meds for a back complaint and when he was more compus mentus disowned their entire output!

      The blood on the cats, all four of them, were a weird combination of rockabilly, psychobilly, garage and goth! With a bit of punk on there for good measure with the Belfasts finest the Outcasts wrongly credited as the Outcats! Worth buying for the Wigs 'thirteen lines' took me until about ten years ago to find a copy of the Wigs ep, was told it didnt exist by a respected collector!

      Albums today are probably cheaper than they were then, its singles that are bloody dear! is that the case in the States? An average 45 here is about £4.50 but an album is usually between £10 and £13.50 or there abouts. sorry to get off track but as an 'old timer' its my perogative!;)
      John Battles said:

       Mark George ,        Well , The British stuff did'nt come cheap , here , either. There was this whole new "Scene" that did'nt get much coverage in the states. I did play a lot of it on my old radio show in Dallas in '86. I may have been one of the first DJs to play that stuff in The U.S.

      I played The Meteors , Guana Batz , etc. , too , alonside The Stingrays, who were mistaken for a Psychobilly band , because of the quiffs and  the standup bass. Bal said "Garage , Trash , Psychobilly , it's all the same thing. It's American music , and Americans don't understand it".   I COULD'NT find a lot of that stuff , yet , I loved the "Rockabilly Psychosis and The Garage Disease" and "Revenge of The Killer Pussies " albums . The Psychobilly thing seemed fresh at the time. I found The Washington Dead Cats' EARLY CASSETTE . They're still going , still terribly silly. But , this tape combined Psychedelia , Psychobilly , and a bit of Pere Ubu ,and , it worked .I still like it , and still have the psychedelic pattern shirt it came with !     Some of those other  bands , Prisoners, Vibes , Escalators , X-Men....Took a few years to find them , but , their records were much cheaper , by then.
       
      Mark George Harrison said:

      As a 16 year old rockabilly/psychobilly in 1980 on £28 a week after giving my mum £10 a week board, there wasn't much money left for records, especially as beer was 50p a pint! I wasn't aware of a garage revival as such until much later, bands like the Stingrays and the X-men all had quiffs and crossed in to the rocking scene without ever using the 'g' word. The Vibes, later the Purple Things, also were be-quiffed! Im not sure when garage came to be used to differentiate between the scenes, it's a question Ive had with several people of similar ages who were there as well.  

      You young whippersnappers don't know how lucky you are with the internet, everything now is accesible. Press coverage was sparse to say the least and apart from a few 'bigger' bands American garage was pretty hard to get hold of and bloody expensive if you could find it, a collecion took years to build up and not a couple of hours downloading from the web.

      Anyway, for me, the best garage bands available to me at the time were the Vibes/Purple things, Stingrays, Tall Boys, Prisoners, Turkey Bones and the wild dogs(check out goldfish and helicopter man). Always found the Milkshakes a bit too 'beat' for me but like later Childish bands. The garage goodies vol 1 album was probably the best British comp at the time as well. Hope this answers the question?

    • July 24, 2012 6:10 AM CDT
    • SO HARD ON THE YUPPIES....

       

      This is where open-mindedness comes into it!! The Reagan-oriented, conservative, disco music-listening lot called the YUPPIES of the 80s would never have accepted such farout music Like Arthur's.....it wouldhave "ruined" their puny little conservative minds, poor little grubs:):):):)!!!!!

      "Are you experienced?!":):):)

    • July 24, 2012 4:58 AM CDT
    • Age 40 , got into music at a young age (7) listening to me parents old records, discovered garage at the age of 16, bought a re issue soul record that had The Count Fives, Psychotic Reaction on the flip, don’t know why but its a good job, as the journey began, and is still going. Me first comp was Pebbles Vol 19 ( Denmark )

      I love British R&B, Mod Beat, and what we now call Garage Punk. here’s a Top 5
      The Dirty Wurds - Why ( and the other side too)
      Him & The Others - She's Got Eyes That tell
      Lies and the other side too
      Unbelievable Uglies - Get Straight

      Apart from the original bands, my all time fave has to be the Mystreated, they must of been the most authentic sounding band ever.

      In my spare time I search out members of bands that history books forget. To name a few a few success's have been Him & The Others, Allen Pounds Get Rich, The Afex, The Act, Lee Grant & The Capitols, The Maniax, The Circle i could on but i wont.

       

    • July 23, 2012 9:32 PM CDT
    • ah... was that a "not going home yet" ending on "fire engine"? i am looking  to hear some other names for that ending, but let's try to be nice to the hair metal, and cock rock bands out there. we all still use this ending, cheezy as it may be.

      but does it have an official name?

      we used a version of it here...

      http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_13735604?utm_campaign=ope...


      or did we? i guess that's one was a little different. but i assure you i have done the full blown "hostage" ending. (??? eh? holding the audience hostage?)

    • July 23, 2012 9:20 PM CDT
    • yeah i would not have thought of that one. i'm checking out your tunes right now. i jumped ahead to" see my friends", to check out the ending. it's a cool one. good job noticing it in "pleasant valley sunday". i'm not judging you one tiny little bit for emulating it, at all. (dead serious, had you not pointed it out i would not have been able to place it.

      THEE DIRTYBEATS said:

      Wow so many cool ways to end a song.

      We always loved the shimmering fade-to-reverb ending of The Monkees' "Pleasant Valley Sunday" -- so much so, that we used it on our version of "See My Friends", an extended psychedelic workout of the Kinks classic with which THEE DIRTYBEATS traditionally closes its sets. 

      This track eventually became the hidden bonus track of THEE DIRTYBEATS' debut ep.

      THEE DIRTYBEATS 100% pure maximum garage
      FREE EP DOWNLOAD http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com

    • July 23, 2012 1:45 PM CDT
    • Wow so many cool ways to end a song.

      We always loved the shimmering fade-to-reverb ending of The Monkees' "Pleasant Valley Sunday" -- so much so, that we used it on our version of "See My Friends", an extended psychedelic workout of the Kinks classic with which THEE DIRTYBEATS traditionally closes its sets. 

      This track eventually became the hidden bonus track of THEE DIRTYBEATS' debut ep.

      THEE DIRTYBEATS 100% pure maximum garage
      FREE EP DOWNLOAD http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com

    • July 23, 2012 8:51 PM CDT
    • Check out Charlotte Nc band Chocha Loca,awesome glam band...you can find em' on myspace.

    • July 23, 2012 8:35 PM CDT
    • Not sure if this has been posted yet, 

      Metallica "Welcome home Sanitarium"  In high school I would sing,

      San Antonio, leave me be

      San Antonio, just leave me alone..........

    • July 23, 2012 6:57 PM CDT
    • "Hot and Nasty" , Black Oak Arkansas - "They call me hot and nasty , they call me Mr. Pansy.".       Actual lyric - "They call me Mr. Fancy".

      Johnny Thunders (And Walter Lure's Heroes) "Too Much Junkie Business"

      "Your the coolest thing in town , with your face flat on the ground. Friends went through your pockets as the coffee went down...."

      "...AS THE COFFIN WENT DOWN".

      ( I thought they were saying "Coffee" in reference the suposedly surefire way to revive an OD victim by pouring hot coffee down their throat , which , reportedly , is how original Dolls Drummer, Billy Murcia , died. ).

       

      "Honky Tonk Women" , YOU KNOW WHO. "I laid a Divorcee in New York City..."

                                       "I LATER DID THE SAME IN NEW YORK CITY....". 

       

      "Whiskey In The Jar" (Trad.) - Dubliners , Thin Lizzy.

      " I first produced me pistol , and then produced my rapier." 

      "And then produced my razor.''.

       

      David Bowie - "Hang on To Yourself" -     "And we move around like tigers on vaseline"

                      "If you like f*gg*ts and vaseline".  I'm sorry , that IS what it sounded like until I saw the actual lyrics.

       

      "All The Madmen "- "My libido split on me , give me some good old lobotomy."

                                 "And The Beatles split on me...." (Very topical for 1971.)

      "Ziggy Stardust" - "He could lick 'em by smiling....." . Do I have to say it?

                                 "The kids were just crass"     "The kids were just crap.".

       

      "Suffragette City"  "AW , DOOGIE , DON'T CRASH HERE"  

                                 "There's usually dope 'round here....".

       "Width of a Circle"    'To which he laughed insane "Kahlil Gibran".

                                 "To which he laughed and said "God's will , children."

       

      Romeo Void (I forget the song.)    "Get THAT JERK OFF YOUR MIND" (Do I have to say it?).

       

    • July 23, 2012 8:24 PM CDT
    • The Hideouts(Va)Hoodsnake(Nc),the Aqualads,Biggy Stardust,Hellacopters,Black Lips....just off the top of my head

    • July 23, 2012 2:45 PM CDT
    • bass drum of death is awesome stuff. but I dont get this Get Bent. Sounds like Offspring or something...

    • July 23, 2012 2:03 PM CDT
    • I used to write for get bent but they fired me :( I saw Bass Drum not long ago they are gonna be huge someday, some seriously hard rocking shit.

      Cath said:

      Great thread! I've been listening to "GB City" by Bass Drum of Death a lot lately. And I agree with Alison, Get Bent is awesome, you definitely have to check it out.

    • July 23, 2012 2:55 PM CDT
    • haha fuck. im diggin the AXE guitar of hell!!!!!

      Damn those metalheads they have no taste..

    • July 23, 2012 1:38 PM CDT
    • Los Straightjackets